it sounds very much like kerzner says, that they really wanted to escape their small towns and they didn't want to live like their friends who were marrying young and having lots of babies. other women wanted adventure. they wanted to go to war. they really wanted to fight. i talked to one woman who was german who would actually emigrated to the united states because she was too old for the german military and she really wanted to fight in war. [inaudible] i mean, what would be their motivation. i need -- the >> some of it was also economic. there were many women who i talked to who came from real poverty. i mean very serious poverty and for them the military was a way out. i spoke with many, many women who have been teen mothers, you know, and had children very, very young and they saw this as a career path and it was a good career path. in light of the current debates over health care on the right? there were several women who had several women with diseases or health conditions and they needed good insurance and that's why they joined the military. >> that just makes me think, what was