free the slaves founder and author kevin bales. i'm maria hinojosa. this is one on one. kevin bales, you are the author of disposable people: new slavery in the global economy, and you are cofounder of the organization free the slaves. and i'm sure when people hear this they say, "wait a second-- kevin bales is saying that there are slaves, more slaves in the world now than ever before?" so help our audience understand that, because i'll bet many of them are just going to say, "i don't believe that." >> you know, maria, there's a certain paradox about this. there are about, to the best of our calculation, about 27 million people in the world in slavery. and you're right, that's double the number that were taken out of africa in the entire 350 years of the transatlantic slave trade. but the paradox is that 27 million in today's global population is the tiniest, the smallest fraction, of the global population to ever be in slavery. so it's large raw number, but it's actually a very tiny fraction of the global population. >> hinojosa: but does it still mean that there are m