i'm joined tonight by kevin boyer of modus. bill hammond is here to answer any questions, as well as melanie singupta who helped prepare the materials for tonight. the appellants raise two issues. one they felt it was not a cooperative process that included the presidio heights neighborhood association in the process and i want to take you back for a minute and say that this truly has been a cooperative process in terms of coming up with that well designed facility that we had. san francisco here exercises its proprietary rights with respect to this design, so three years ago, we began working on a design with the san francisco public utility commission fore them to approve this design in order tfor it t be leased to verizon wireless. it went through ceqa review, and the board, and the board threw out a design to keep this design. this design was thought to fit into the context of san francisco and to meet those -- to match those poles that they currently are attached to, and that is the cooperative process that began several y