as a indicated, that was the assistant chief kevin cashman who at the time, as i understand it, was in charge of operations. >> right. chairman campos: that's now a function that you have. and when did you take that over? >> about five weeks ago. chairman campos: and what i will say is that i'm really happy to see that you're doing this, that you have the level of expertise and experience that you bring to that very important position. what i will say is that the prior assistant chief who was in charge of operations has heard all of this. he was present during those discussions about sit-lie where we repeatedly indicated that in our estimation, valid as the concerns around sit-lie were that this illusion rested with more community policing and specifically more foot patrols. so along the lines of what the assistant supervisor mirkarimi was indicating, expressly that the assistant chief in charge of operations has known that this is an ongoing issue and concern for the boip of supervisors. and so it's unfortunate that some of that context was not provided. but that's not your fault. you