kevin courtney is the joint general secretary of the national education union, which represents the majorityled for all primary schools in england to move to learning online for at least two weeks. ...we we think that would have kept cases down. the scottish government has delayed the reopening of schools. the government has delayed the reopening of secondary school still then are now quite a number of primary schools. we are saying it has to go further if you can then genuinely say you are following the science. we also think that acting now, acting early, that's the message that you get from this pandemic the whole time is don't wait until cases have gone up and up and then try and manage them down. that takes a lot longer. take action now, get the cases to fall after christmas, and then put in place as measures that can keep cases low. you have told your mind is that they have a legal right to refuse to work in unsafe conditions. —— your members. do you consider primary schools, if they do reopen next week, unsafe conditions? would expect people, workers, teachers, support staff, not to w