i will speak with north dakota senator kevin cramer on what happens now and later president trump takes stage at cpac this weekend karl rove is here what we can expect as republicans look ahead to 2024. first let's take a look back at the week's big moments in this edition of the week stalkers. watch. >> you are going to be among those questioning garland on the floor today what you want to hear from him. >> i'm going to have some questions about the durham investigation, the hunter biden investigation, i also have some questions that center around china. maria: texas saying you can't come in like a king and decide to blow off the laws that congress put in place. >> that executive order was unconstitutional, unlawful on its face. this demonstration has been clear from the white house they are systematically dismantling every single effective tool and policy. maria: why 4000 people a day are showing about our borders. >> absolutely right on the numbers about 3500 per day that were seen crossed the border illegally, we are in a crisis on the southwest border at the moment. maria: presiden

senator kevin cramer and these are some republicans kevin cramer of north dakota saying the plain readingf the constitution makes it obvious where we begin today's and inappropriate use of the impeachment process the vast majority of republicans agree we should stop this process right now. in lankford -- jim lankford from obama can't vote to remove someone from office is not even office. this is nonsense and sets a terrible present for the future but today we had no chief justice presiding because of the constitution does not speak to trying a former president. you cannot disqualify someone from running for office until you decide on removal but it's impossible to remove someone from office when he's already gone. james lankford says the impeachment trial is clearly unconstitutional. hammy says hatred and hatred alone for president donald trump's what this is all about in washington d.c.. in long branch new jersey alberta go ahead. >> caller: i think we need to take a pause and look at this moment and really reflect on what it means about our represented democracy and the fact that we are

kevin cramer at the republican from minnesota said the president's defense team was off to a rocky start. >> shannon: thank you for staying up with us, chad, we will see you back tomorrow for more coverage. thank you. >> of course. >> shannon: arc as calling today's impeachment proceedings "the beginning of the stupidest week in the senate." as former president defense team coming under scrutiny, we discussed with the child appeared impeachment trial jerk republican senator from north dakota, kevin cramer good to have you here tonight. >> good to be with you tonight, shannon. >> shannon: you are not a fan of the procedure but were you a fan what you saw from the legal? >> well, i do think they could have been better organized and better prepared but what seemed to strike me is mr. castor he basically admitted upfront that he was not prepared for the house managers to be as good as they were. or so far from the question of the day which remember the question of simply senate jurisdiction. but as many good jurists do, they bring up the issues they want to talk about as opposed to the issue

kevin cramer, who had called raskin a back bencher. he did a superior job, it's just stating the reality. nia, one other thing senator cramer said, basically, if there's something there, i don't think it's constitutional for us to deal with it, put it in a criminal court. that was also referenced by the trump team. we have reporteding that trump worried about criminal prosecution. how significant do you think this is, that there are republicans who will say we're not going to do it but they seem perfectly happy for trump to be held to account in a criminal setting? >> i don't know that they are actually perfectly happy with that. they're perfectly happy with using procedural arguments as a way to duck their own responsibilities and really look at holding him accountable. but yes, if you are donald trump, you are certainly scared of this post-presidential life that he is getting used to now and what might be coming down the pike in terms of criminal prosecution, not only in this case but in other cases that we already know are being look

i will speak with north dakota senator kevin cramer on what happens now and later president trump takes this weekend karl rove is here what we can expect as republicans look ahead to 2024. first let's take a look back at the week's big

kevin cramer with us, republican, north dakota. i'm on your side here.n you actually reverse it, can you make it happen? >> interesting question, stu, thank you. certainly we can. senator manchin is right on point. the easiest way to to reverse it the keystone crossings international border. crosses from saskatchewan into montana, because of that the president has this unique authority with a presidential permit. he could easily reverse it. congress could as well but he won't. that's right. stuart: he won't. if he did that, the left, aoc, they would be apoplectic. they would desert. >> the problem he could be made to understand there are national security ramifications to this decision. the demand is not going away. the demand is still there. do you get the heavy sour crude oil from canada or venezuela or saudi arabia. somebody is going to get it, instead after pipeline, do you put it on a train which is far less efficient, spew as lot more you know, gas? if you will and worse trucks? it makes no sense whatsoever. stuart: again, can you, i know it makes

hours, you've had every from bill cassidy of louisiana, these are all republicans, not to mention kevin cramer not somebody we want under the tent. i use the term, the tent, because kevin mccarthy said we have a big tent here, a lot of different opinions can be welcome. what these senators are saying is, yeah, we've got a big tent but do we want a rabid raccoon under it and we seal the entrances. i think this would have been a different outcome on the vote of censuring her if it had been like a business cheney house vote, secret, anonymous, because then people don't have to be named and picked by constituents to say you voted against marjorie taylor greene. but the republican party has to decide is this somebody -- is she somebody who is one side of the debate aisle when it comes to right or left policy issues or is she somebody who is really damaging to the entire conservative party? howie: right. you know, kevin mccarthy later said when republicans declined to act that while he didn't think she should be punished that she -- he condemned the comments. when the story first broke, he didn't sa

some republicans, including senator kevin cramer of north dakota made clear that is not what the republicans should be saying and they should be taking action against her. >> is she a good face for the republican party? she is not. she is very extreme, to say the least. the anti-semitism, i've never seen anything quite like it. anti-semitism, school shootings weren't real. she runs the gamut, the idea that forest fires were started by jewish lasers. it's so profound, so far out there, it makes me wonder how she did get elected. >> we're still waiting for an ultimate resolution about what house republicans decide to do with marjorie taylor greene and a resolution about what they will do with liz cheney. going in, wolf, a number of these republicans are still adamant, one way or another, in their positions, dug in, one way or the other, and defending some of the actions they took. one of the ten republican congressmen who voted to impeach donald trump told me -- i asked him, do you regret your vote in any way? and he said hell, no. wolf is this. >> when kevin mccarthy, the minority leader, say

north dakota senator kevin cramer says personally i'd have a hard time supporting her positions on the school shootings being staged and being on the education committee. real authority has moral authority, he said. senator marco rubio says anyone who argues the parkland school shooting, which, of course happened in his state, was actually a false flag operation perpetrated to mobilize public support in opposition to gun rights as taylor greene does, is, quote, either deranged or a sadist. rubio stated those were real families, those were real children that died. his florida colleague rick scott who was governor of florida during the shooting says that her comments are completely wrong and very disappointing. completely wrong and very disappointing is what you might say when you accidently get someone else's takeout order, someone spinning a conspiracy theory about the worst high school shooting in u.s. history, then confronting a kid who survived it is unconscionable. south dakota republican senator john thune says of the house gop, quote, do they want to be the party of limited gover

republicans don't and it's not just democrats upset about her there are republicans, conservatives like kevin cramer. >> she is very extreme to say the least. the anti-semitism, i've never seen anything quite like it. the anti-semitism, school shootings aren't real. she runs the gammitt. forest fires are started by jewish lasers. i makes me wonder how she did get elected. >> mitch mcconnell called her views cancer for the republican party but never named her in the criticism. over on the house side, the members and leaders being called on to do something about it appear not to be too concerned. the congressman spoke at the meeting telling her colleagues her social media posts don't reflect who she is as a person, which to be fair, she said behind closed doors and if that's not who she is, what was she doing posting and liking it? exactly who is this person? >> the so-called plane that crashed into the pentagon, it's odd there is never any evidence shown for a plane in the pentagon. there is an islamic invasion into our government offices right now. kennedy getting killed in the plane crash is anothe

here now is senator kevin cramer, who voted yesterday the trial was unconstitutional.od morning. thank you for being back on the show. >> you're welcome. >> you called jamie raskin superior, saying he did a better job making the case yesterday, yet you still voted for the arguments by bruce castor, who have been decried as meandering and insufficient, even by people in your open party. how did you come to the conclusion where you still felt this trial was unconstitutional? how do you explain to your voters that you're not just voting the way the party wants you to? >> yes, thank you. i do think the they were superior in that they did a better job of a more organized presentation. however, you made the point, the plaintiffs have the burden of proof on them. but mr. showen, no mr. castor, but mr. shone said he needs to get the president, not the former president, it means the same thing in every article. the simplicity in that article, the plaintiff leading, is compelling to me but that doesn't diminish the job, frankly, that the house managers did not just do making the

kevin cramer, "mitch is a good tactician and respectful that every senator got here on their own."t quotes rob portman "hasn't made a decision, said he wasn't getting pressure from the leadership." mcconnell says it is a vote of conscience. thehill.com. linda, republican. caller: mcconnell should be voted out of office by republicans. they should be voted out. i don't want to say removed from office. as a private citizen, i don't want to be impeached by the kangaroo house. trump's speech was for a peaceful and patriotic march. he said to cheer on congress and asked congress to fight. he also tweeted "stay peaceful." stick with me. then, the breachers that planned for months, arrived at the capitol 31 minutes before trump finished his speech. then they took the 45 minute walk, that was peaceful, and arrived at the capitol 76 minutes later and witnesses heard a militant terrorist group talking against trump and patriots. they were disguised group that set up trump supporters. host: who said that? caller: trump. host: who are the witnesses? caller: said that, they called them f--ing p

. >> i want to read you something that conservative republican senator kevin cramer wrote in an op-ed -- what her repugnant comments can teach us all, greene's comments have been characterized as far right. they're not. they're not based on an extremely conservative ideology. they're horrifying and completely untethered to reality. congresswoman greene's remarks are not conservative and allowing them to stand without consequence is unacceptable. the people of georgia should closely consider whether she should continue representing them. they comments and the controversy offer a rare moment when anger is justified and action should be taken. that's not always the case. i understand what he's trying to say here, charlie, but i have to say, as somebody who worked in republican politics my whole life, the left was right about everything. i'm part of it. i'm not blaming anybody. the left, which has been covered -- and people tried to brand them as the radical left, they've been right about anything. any attempt to say there were two sides here is dead wrong. the republicans is green-lit th

so, that's why we're saying, all right, we don't know how long this goes and this is where kevin cramerpublican senator from north dakota says maybe they take statement from jaime herrera beutler the congresswoman from washington state and that's that. would the president's attorneys accede to that. we've heard that lindsey graham, we'll have to hear from nancy pelosi, this could go down to the mat that they'll vote for this. keep in mind senators on republican side of the aisle last year, mitt romney and susan collins open the door for witnesses and they didn't have those and you had the witnesses in the impeachment trial of president clinton in 1999 earlier in the process. and this is a surprise because nobody literally knows what's going to happen. senators do not know what the text of the resolution might be. they don't know if they can't get an agreement and everybody just goes home. we don't know if any time here we might hear from chuck schumer who could layout the schedule and debate back and forth so senators understand what they're voting. there was a question in the middle of

joining me right now north dakota senator member of the senate armed services budget committee kevin cramerafter what with a unfolded on day one? and is there a chance, of -- conviction here? >> well, thank you maria good morning. frankly i misspoke when i said floor because clearly one more republican switched over voted wasn't that constitutional now senator bill cassidy, his points were relevant the president's team did not make as good argument against it as house managers made for the constitutional point of senate jurisdictions. however even at that, the -- president's lawyers made adequate case not as splashy perhaps as complete as -- as the managers still an adequate case so i stand by that, i do think that you know in terms of the hill managers have to climb very steep very high not just because at least 44 of us think this is unconstitutional exercise altogether the line between, you know criminal liability, and firing up a crowd is you know a pretty tough i think cause and effect to make for insurrection. >> and the reason, that we haven't seen any pushback on people like, maxine

that he has decided despite having voted that the trial is unconstitutional that there is senator kevin cramerho was talking and made the point, it takes some mental gymnastics is the word he used to go from declaring a trial unconstitutional and vote to convict somebody in the same trial, so it seems unlikely that any more than at max the six republicans that voted that the trial was constitutional devote to convict. senator cassidy's case is interesting. the vote to convict, the vote was to continue debate on the motion rather than on the motion itself and it was not to dismiss the trial per se. that was the vote today. senator cassidy said i wanted to hear the arguments on the constitutionality and i am satisfied. and he joined these five other republicans who had previously voted with democrats to table the discussion together. host: looking at all of the senators, how effective or at least from talking to them from -- was the presentation from the video? guest: as far as we can tell, the video was moving. remember, most if not all of these senators were on the hill for the attack, and whi

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