we've got john carney and senator kevin cramer on that whole story but first up our own intrepid grady trimble live from washington. intrepid, grady, what you got? reporter: larry we're monitoring this speech from vice president harris in pittsburgh. she's speaking right now, and i'll be honest with you. so far i haven't heard a lot of substantive policy proposals that are anything different from what we've heard from her already. its been sort of a long build-up from the vice president discussing her own middle class upbringing, relating that to the struggles americans are facing today because of high prices, and as you know, she blames companies for price gouging so she's reiterated that she wants to go after them for that. she has reiterated her support for a $6,000 child tax credit. the fact she wants to build 3 million new homes, go after landlords for raising rent, $25,000 in down payment assistance, but again, none of this is new so maybe she'll get to that as she continues the build-up in this speech but one part that stood out to me, larry, is this sound bite i'm about to play

and republican senator kevin cramer of north dakota, said, quote, he treated if like a mini-rally in a lot of respects. you've got to be talking to swing voters in swing states. he could do that better with details. we're also now getting new reaction from inside the trump camp with one advisor to the former president telling nbc news it was not his best performance without question. and a long-time republican operative said i know everyone in the world has said this, but the inability or unwillingness to realize when he's being baited and not fall for it is constantly baffling. at the same time democratic congressman jared mosquewits of florida poked fun at trump's debate performance saying it might be time to have those difficult conversation about whether to proceed or drop out of the race. the former president is also claiming now he won the debate against vice president harris and perhaps does not need to participate in a second one. trump has been relentlessly criticizing abc news and its moderators claiming he was not just debating harris but also the two journalists hosting t

republican senator kevin cramer of north dakota said, quote, "he treated it like a mini rally in a lot of republicans. you have to be talking to the swing voters in swing states. he could do that better with details." we're also getting reaction from inside the trump camp. one adviser telling nbc news, quote, "it was not his best performance, without question." that's from inside the trump camp. a long-time republican operative saying, "i know everyone in the world has said this, but the inability, unwillingness to realize when he is being baited and not fall for it is constantly baffling." how about this? robert f. kennedy jr. of course, recently suspended his presidential campaign to endorse trump, criticized trump's debate performance. >> vice president harris clearly won the debate in terms of her delivery, her polish, her organization, and her preparation. i think on substance, president trump wins in terms of his governance, but he didn't tell that story. >> in the from a guy, john, with an affinity for eating animals that he hit on the side of the road. that's tough criticism. >

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