it was, at the time, a stunning and craven political calculation by house minority leader kevin mccarthyhest-ranking house republican in leadership. a reminder for our fans, despite what you heard, her offense was telling the truth about the 2020 election and voting to hold the ex-president accountable for his attacks on democracy and the violence that ensued on january 6th. in the months that ensued after cheney's vote for trump's impeachment, after the insurrection, mccarthy led the charge to remove her from leadership, to make cheney the pariah in her own party for standing up for the constitution and the rule of law. that move now looks completely different in light of newly released audio from "new york times" reporters alexander burns and jonathan martin, which show in mccarthy's own words that mccarthy saw this exactly the same way liz cheney did, that trump should go. take another listen to the audio we played in the last hour. >> are you hearing that he might resign? is there any reason to think that might happen? >> i've had a few discussions. my gut tells me, no. i'm seriously