cheery note -- [laughter] i'd like to thank you all for coming a, like to thank shelly murphy, kevin cullen, boston globe to both of you, whitey bulger, i don't know how many have time to come over, but, yes, after this. [applause] >> what's the new book about? >> called "david and goliath: underdogs, misfits, and art of battling giants," and it's about underdogs. i got really interested in telling the stories of people who seem weak and powerless, and yet go on to accomplish great things. i -- that was a puzzle of how they managed to do that, but i thought it was worthy of a book, and so my letter. >> in 2009, you wrote a piece for the new yorker, david and goliath, and you can tells story, but is that when the interest started? >> yeah, i wrote a story, but oddly, nothing in the article i wrote made it into the book, but it was what got me thinking about it. there was an article i wrote about a guy, started with a story of a guy who is an indian immigrant, living in silicon valley, coaches his daughter's basketball team, and they are all 12, 13, and they are all the daughters of software

. >> kevin cullen of the "boston globe," you wrote an extensive book about the trial. i'm sure you spoke to the family members, obviously some were not happy. there were seven victims the jury could not find without a reasonable doubt that bulger played a role in their murder and the jury could not come to a finds at all in the murder of deborah davis, the murder of bulger's partner, steve flemmi. i want to play something and get your reaction. >> she knows i'm a fighter. in this i'll be the last man standing. >> very, very emotional brother of one of the victims of whitey bulger's criminality, although the jury did not find that he played a role. can you talk about the frustration these families feel today? >> jake, i would make a slight correction on that. they did not say that they did not find a role in that. what they said is that they could not reach a finding. that's a very big difference from a not guilty or a not proved. it's considerably different. basically the jury said they only had the uncorroborated word of steve flemmi saying that whitey killed deborah

columnist kevin cullen, who co- wrote the book "whitey bulger," has been following on the story for the "boston globe," and joins us now. kevin, welcome back to the program. >> thanks, margaret. warner: first of all, give us a feel for what it was like in the courtroom today after what has been eight weeks of really gruesome testimony. as the case is entering the final phase. >> well, one thing i think is that people walked out of court today fire tired because the court had been running basically from 9:00 to 1:00 every day. we didn't get out of there until about quarter of 5:00 because the closings went on very long. as i was actually just playing with the top of my column for tomorrow's boston globe and i said if you begin with the premise that all closing arguments are theater, this was much more like harold pinter's betrayal than like edward albee's who's afraid of virginia woolf because the characters weren't shouting at each other as much as circling each other and trying to outdo each other. and the... i'm sorry. >> warner: tell us about the prosecution, what was the nub of thei

you are on with kevin cullen of he boston globe. they -- y question is, if they charged him with tax evasion and bookwalking, he's already 83, he would have died in jail. but if these prosecutors opened the door to everything, absolutely everything, and whitey, because he is wanting to defend his legacy as far as killing women and so on and so forth chose not to testify, it was going to be his last horrah, and yet he chose not to do it. i don't understand why he didn't testify. caller: i think -- guest: i think i do. i think he was afraid of being cross-examined by the prosecutors. once he testifies, he opens himself to anything. if i'm the prosecutor and i go back to his teenage days and i ask about the sexual assaults that he was charged with. now, he was not convicted, but he portrays himself as a patriot i would ask why he was charged with rain when he was stationed in montana during the korean war. more specifically what whitey bulger didn't want to hear from the prosecution was him trying to explain that in 1966 he gave up his

the jury said that. >> kevin cullen, thank you.nks so much. >>> when we return, let me finish with a regular rite of summer, a misguided one, criticizing the president for taking a vacation. you're watching "hardball." the place for politics. >>> let me finish tonight with this. the first family is on vacation in martha's vineyard. this is their fourth vacation trip to the island. they skipped last year in the midst of the 2012 campaign. the president, he hit the links with the press pool watching both yesterday and today. i notice that this morning drudge was leading with a story that talked about the arrival of bo, the family dog via an osprey helicopter, the number of hotel rooms needed for secret service, and the presence of a mesh bag filled with basketballs in the luggage. criticizing a president's vacation, especially this president's vacation has become a rite of summer. to learn more of the facts, today i chatted with mark knoller. he is the white house correspondent for cbs news, but he is more than that. he is the go-to

. >> woodruff: to walk us through the verdict, we're joined once again by kevin cullen. he's a columnist from the "boston globe." welcome back to the newshour, kevin. first of all, tell us about the scene in the newsroom when the jury reported the verdict. >> well, it was pretty obvious that the families -- one thing i saw i could see over whitey's shoulder. i was actually purposefully the other courtroom where the camera was on whitey and i could see the families in back of him. and the donahue family was obviously thrilled, the davis family was crushed. the leonard family was crushed. those murders -- in the davis case, that was one of the woman, he was charged with 19 murders, judy, the only two he objected to were the women because that flew in the face of his phony narrative as this gangster with scupables and he was convicted of the murder of deborah hussy, the stepdaughter of his partner in crime, steve flemmi and the jury came back with a verdict of no finding in the killing of deborah davis. i heard his lawyer describe he was pleased with the findings. i would sa

for more on the case, we're joined by kevin cullen, a columnist for the boston globe author of "whiteyr," and george and nas tashal who co-authored the autobiography of former vega mayor oscar good mann who got his start as a mob lawyer. george, speak about the mind-set of guys like this this honor, this code business where it's like okay if you say you were a mafia kingpin but please don't say i killed women and please don't say i was a snitch. >> that's a an position he took in this case. the facts is undermine that. bulger had this, i think, enhanced image of who he was. and i think kevin who has written extensively about him can speak more to that than i could. whitey bulger created a persona that wasn't reality. i think what we saw in this trial and this evidence, this is the real whitey bulger. he is a despicable individual. >> kevin, were you surprised that he did not take the stand in his own defense? i asked that. it's common in criminal trials. but in this case, it seemed like this guy had a story he wanted to tell. >> i think he did. but in the same time, michael, i wrote a

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. >> reporter: kevin cullen has been covering the trial for the "boston globe." >> and steve was talking about how excited he was. he couldn't wait to get up there and point out "whitey" bulger and say, "that's the man who extorted me. that's the man who threatened the life of my family. that's the man who put a gun near my child." >> reporter: just before he thought he was going to testify, prosecutors decided their case against bulger was strong enough without rakes. >> steve rakes was told that he would not be testifying, and that really bothered him. >> reporter: the next day, rakes missed trial for the first time. a jogger found his dead body in the woods of a boston suburb, his wallet missing. almost all of boston saimed connection to bulger. >> we're here to announce criminal charges have been filed in the death of stephen rakes. criminal charges have been filed in the death of stephen rakes. >> reporter: on friday, in a bizarre twist, officials announced they now believe rakes' murder had nothing at all to do with buller. one of rakes' business associates, 69-year-old william cam

. >> reporter: boston globe columnist kevin cullen has covered bulger for 30 years. >> the narrative he spent his entire life creating was he is a gangster with scruples and gangsters with scruples don't kill woman and don't become informants. >> reporter: closing arguments are set to begin on monday. bob, jury deliberations are expected to get under way on tuesday. >> schieffer: thank you very much, elaine. in a related story, by the way, authorities said today that stephen rakes, who had hoped to testify against bulger, was found dead after the trial got under way. apparently, he was poisoned. rakes claimed he had been forced to sell his liquor store to bulger but his death, apparently, had nothing to do with the case. the police are holding a 69- year-old man who owed rakes money and reportedly put poison in his iced coffee. secretary of state john kerry called again today fair peaceful resolution of the crisis in egypt that started a month ago when the military ousted president mohammed morsi, but another bloodbath could be in the offing. hundreds of thousands of morsi supporters

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kevin cullen is co-author of whitey bulger, and the manhunt that brought him to justice. so much. i know you have covered this man for so long. you wrote this morning for the last two months he saturday in the courtroom, as you described it, looking like a guy waiting for a bus, but on monday, it looked like that bus ran him over. as a bostonian, explain the significance, what the conclusion of this case means to your city. >> well, obviously whitey bulger is the most infamous vial gangster the city has ever known, what kicks him up into the pantheon of criminals, he but that he had the nation's premier law enforcement agency, the fbi, in his pocket. he was their informant. in a lot of ways he tricked them, about you he was protected by a guy, his fbi handler grew up in the same neighborhood, so it's sort of a cynical deal in the beginning, but as the evidence at the trial showed, whitey bulger killed with the connivance of the fbi. the fbi helped him identify potential witnesses against him, and he in turn murdered these people. and so most of the murders that they was it

i am phil rosenthal with kevin cullen and shelley murphy of the boston globe who are here not on the chicago black caucus but to talk about their new book on whitey bulger, who is the boston mobster caught in the land after what, 16 years? and first of all, let's note you've been boston journalists for quite a long time at this point. >> someone said between us it's been like 16 years? we've been chasing him a combined year of 50 years between us. >> and also at this point in journalism, you know, having a java is its own reward coming you have an armful of trophies all the way come to the surprise, its and impressive list. you know, it's a wonderful book. the thing i was reminded of the very beginning of it, something when i was a kid my father was taking a friend of mine to go see a butch cassidy and the sundance kid and he said you know, remember whenever the movie makes of them, they are the bad guys. the of a thing it reminded me of is the old line from mel brooks in the 2000-year-old man where he talks about robin hood, and he says what about robin hood? he stole from the rich

eastern, kevin cullen and shelley murphy talk about why the bolger -- whitey bulger. we start with collision 2012, obama versus romney and the future of elections in america followed by the author of collusion:all the media stole the 2012 election and how to stop them from doing it in 2016. at 10:00 p.m. eastern of elizabeth greenspan joins booktv on afterwards. it an interview with the former special master of the federal september 11th victims' compensation fund, mr. greenspan talked about her book battle for ground 0, inside the political struggle to rebuild the world trade center. we wrap up the prime time programming and a 11:00 p.m. eastern with the united states of paranoia:a conspiracy theory. visit booktv.org for more of this weekend's television schedule. >> when you write a book, a lot can go wrong. that is the way i approach the world. i am somewhat neurotic in my writing and reporting a lot can go wrong in 110,000 words. i have been pretty shocked. if there has been criticism from inside it is mostly in the vein of how dare he, how dare an insider give aw

jon: kevin cullen doing great work there at "the boston globe," thank you. >> thank you, jon. nna: nice to hear from kevin after so many years covering that story. jon: finally a wrap-up to all of this. jenna: maybe, especially for the victims' families. >>> only one of these men was supposed to have won the million dollar grand prize, so why are both of them holding the check? the answeron straight ahead. t c, i just think it's better to work with someone. someone you feel you can really partner with. unfortunately, i've found that some brokerage firms don't always encourage that kind of relationship. that's why i stopped working at the old brokerage, and started working for charles schwab. avo: what kind of financial consultant are you looking for? talk to us today. backflips and cartwheels.mile? love, warmth. here, try this. backflips and camm, ok!s.mile? ching! i like the fact that there's lots of different tastes going on. mmmm! breakfast i'm very impressed. this is a great cereal! honey bunches of oats. i hear you crunching. jon: well, they share the same name and hometow

. >> host: kevin cullen, author of "whitey bulger: america's most wanted gangster and the manhunt thatrought him to justice." he is also a columnist for "the boston globe." kevin, thank you for your time estimate thank you. >> we were going to bring you live coverage today of parts of the reserve officers association conference in washington, d.c. because of technical issues beyond our control, we were unable to have a life. our cameras are there and you'll find this later on c-span network schedule and online at c-span.org. >> you are watching c-span2 with politics and public affairs, weekdays featuring live coverage of the u.s.-centric on weeknights watch key public policy events. every week and the latest nonfiction authors and books on booktv. you can see past programs and get our schedules at our website and you can join in the conversation on social media sites. >> c-span levet discussion this afternoon on immigration and the impact it has on state economies. stephen moore of "the wall street journal" and the president of the u.s. hispanic chamber of commerce join the discussion.

kevin cullen to her right is a pulitzer-winning columnist in "the boston globe" and tore himself away from the whitey bulger case for a few hours to speak to you all. in the bombing coverage, he was the voice of boston for many people on tv and in his columns. john has the unique perspective of having run the marathon, reported on the bombing for news day, and written the definitive history of the boston athletic association that runs the marathon. dena is with npr and lived with the investigation for weeks as authorities searched for clues on the identities, motives, and possible connections. kelly mcbride is with the pointer institute and deeply annualized the ethical issues that surfaced for journalists covering the bombing. start with tereasa, go to kevin and john. dena will pick up the story. kelly will wrap it up. then go to questions. thank you tereasa? >> i'm happy to be here. thank everyone for inviting me here. my title as john said is director of engagement and social media for boston.com and "boston globe".com. that doesn't mean i don't take the opportunity to go back to m

kevin cullen to her right is a columnist in ng "the boston globe" and tore himself away from the whitey a few hours to speak to you all. in the bombing coverage, he was voice of boston for many people on tv and in his columns. john has the unique perspective of having run the marathon, reported on the bombing for news day, and written the definitive boston athletic association that runs the marathon. dena is with npr and lived with the investigation for weeks as searched for clues on the identities, motives, and possible connections. is with the pointer institute and deeply annualized the ethical issues for journalists covering the bombing. with tereasa, go to kevin and john. dena will pick up the story. up.ly will wrap it then go to questions. thank you tereasa? to be here. inviting me e for here. my title as john said is engagement and boston.com and r "boston globe".com. hat doesn't mean i don't take the opportunity to go back to my roots whennd editing marathon ve blog the every year with a colleague. we do it from the media center a maybe a block from the finish line in copley squa