kevin hamilton, who is seattle based in the same law firm, he got on the phone and he told everybody study absentee ballots, look at absentee ballots, people always screw up, particularly democrats, they're really sloppy voters and kevin with morning on the rossi recount in 2004 where absentee ballots were an issue. the other thing about hamilton, from the moment he landed in minneapolis, which would have been like the 11th of november, he was thinking about a trial. he's a trial attorney. and just keep that in mind when you realize that the coleman legal team, and its lead trial lawyer wasn't hired until about three days before the first scheduling meeting on that trial in january. and that was joe freedburg, a great trial lawyer in town, well known, nice man, but wouldn't have known an election law if he tripped over it in january and suddenly, he had to represent senator coleman, against hamilton, who had experience and was planning for two months for this thing. also on these calls, was a man named chris sauter, who to me is an unknown person and someone i like and he is arguably