situation when government fails to take ownership of making sure they can keep their public site ok kevin hurley thank you very much for your time there so tremendous amount going on by the authorities behind the scenes but clearly as we've heard possibly the police may be a little bit more stretched than initially first thought for now back to you in the studio there in london all right knee fans are going to bring you more coverage of this story in about forty minutes time at the top of the next hour now funny mariyam thank you very much and us president donald trump was quick to react to what happened in london today he tweeted this. another attack in london by a loser terrorist these are sick and demented people who were in the sights of scotland yard must be proactive and he added loser terrorists must be dealt with in a much tougher matter the internet is our main recruitment tool which we must cut off and use better now british police have responded to tom's tweets describing them as unhealthful but he seems to reiterate his sentiments when speaking outside the white house just about fort

let's speak to kevin hurley, former head of the counter terrorism and public order department for theoon. i wonder what you make of the sort of understanding and picture we are building up of the nature of this device. and picture we are building up of the nature of this devicelj and picture we are building up of the nature of this device. i would go along very much with a lot of what richard walton has just said, but i disagree with his use of the phrase islamic. we need to be very careful in using that kind of term. it would be more appropriate to describe that as extremism. i urge course on with people using the word islamic, because that tends to two drive is lahm afobe, and we need to be much more careful —— —— islam are phobic reactions. yes, it looks like it has failed to detonate correctly, just like the bombs did in 21/7, just like the bombs did in 21/7, just weeks after the 7/7 bombs. who knows what the constituents of it are, but probably quite likely a mixture of trice atoned tri— peroxide, but that would be conjecture, but it does tend to be the bomb of choice for these p