be going back to the bad old days when we were de facto criminals in our own country. >> host: kevin jennings, our guest. we welcome your calls and comments. we'll go first to jack from georgia on the independents line. good morning. >> caller: yes, sir, good morning. i would like to ask mr. jennings, i mean, i'm originally from savannah, georgia. i'm not gay, but i know very fine gay couples that are very highly educated people and very productive people. and since he was talking about this abortion issue, the right to life, what about the gay couples who want to adopt children? and -- a heard anything since heavy gotten into the abortion issue, how do they stand on even heterosexual and gay couples who might want to raise children instead of a person going and having an abortion, have they ever thought about maybe, you know, have -- carrying out the pregnancy and then putting the child up for adoption where gay couples and met to prosexual couples -- and heterosexual couples want a family unit -- [inaudible] >> host: okay. kevin jennings. >> guest: first of all, jack, thank you for your que