and we are working with kevin jensen from public works and our accessible services program to come up with those. >> just quick follow-up. because i do think there is distinction between primarily residential part of the city that is west of van ness and downtown and soma, i think those are very different neighborhoods. what have you seen the primary reasons that people are using the scooters? because, again, in my neighborhood, it seems like joy rides. >> well, as they're zipping down sidewalks -- i didn't know they weren't allowed on the sidewalk, i have a kid in a wheelchair, and i've got a toddler. i'm like, watch out. >> we don't know that yet. i don't think i mentioned this is pilot program. so we're definitely trying to understand that question. how are these being used? is it actually a benefit to the transportation network for just for fun? we need to figure that out, we don't have those answers, we don't have those surveys in place. >> co-chair blacksten: tatiana? >> council member kostanian: i'm out in the sunset, i see a lot of scooters around. is there a central place whe