by kevin jul, former home office security and counterterrorism adviser. e were just saying that, you know, for 20 years there have been descriptions of the home office and those under its purview as being not fit for purpose. but this this is failure on the most astonishing level. >> yeah. good evening nigel. i should say at the outset, from the home office point of view, i worked in different capacity. but from my policing perspective, worked with prevent and channel and the like. as far as a failure, unfortunately, to put it mildly, it's one of those the individuals has fallen through the gaps, i think is a phrase that's been used before. there are a number of mechanisms and structures and organisations in place, and what seems to have happened here is that it is those that have not joined together, and the outcome has been that there's been a lack of ownership, i think a lack of responsibility and therefore this this individual hasn't been picked up in the right kind of treatment or actions taken. >> all well and good to say that it's not joined up, and

by kevin jul, former home office security and counterterrorism adviser. were just saying that, you know, for 20 years there have been descriptions of the home office and those under its purview as being home