. >> kevin keithley has been working this for the fbi. let's go back to the base question. we have a picture of this guy. we know his name. why so difficult to catch him? >> certainly we've been able to gather a number of leads based on the pictures that we've shown in the media. but it's a matter of finding this guy at the right place at the right time. and certainly he's demonstrated the ability to travel pretty much across the country at will. so it has been a difficult task to find him in the particular location. >> kevin, do you think he's getting some help? have you heard anybody that's come alongside of him? to joe's point, i guess part of the romance of helping a bank robber, for lack of a better term. >> not to get into a lot of detail about our investigation, but we do believe he's being assisted by others. which, you know, in this instance, has helped him get away from particular scenes. >> let me get police chief caseyville, illinois, site of the latest bank robbery. j.d., i'm sure everybody got a good look at him. did you get any other details about what happen

let's go to kevin keithley, fbi, following this.fics about what happened there in illinois, kevin? >> i do. unfortunately, yesterday it appears now to be his 12th bank robbery. >> number 12, okay. >> unfortunately he is still out there, able to evade police at the scenes. so certainly we're coordinating our efforts with state and local counterparts to get this guy into custody. >> kevin, any details? does he -- did he threaten anybody? did he rough anybody up? anybody get hurt? what happened here? >> his m.o. is pretty -- has been similar throughout, since -- and that includes entering the banks, showing a handgun, threatening the use of it, and then demanding money an@ fleeing from the scene. so even though he has not committed any -- actually fired the weapon so far, he certainly has that ability. >> let's bring in joe loya, reformed bank robber. joe, you can give us the unique perspective here. the mind-set of this guy. no stocking cap. he's not trying to hide himself. what is he going for here? is he a guy who loves the attentio