. >> they don't know kevin madden. >> we saw this incident with doug young this week, 79-year-old congressmanslur to describe undocumented workers, when he was working on a farm, a childhood farm or whatever. and boy did republicans jump all over that, in a way i've not seen them sort of. i mean, he was -- everybody abandoned that ship. but it points out the difficulty, doesn't it, that the republicans are going to have, trying to change that imagery. because it's one guy in the republican party, but when it feeds into something, it's twice as damaging. >> it doesn't feed into anything, if you jump on it the way that boehner and other leaders within the party, across the party have. and i think the media always tries to make one statement into an event or something that's much more telling about the party. in this case, that's not true. because if you look at the contrast, those that are within the party, that are trying to work on immigration reform, those that are trying to work on rebuilding the brand and becoming a party of ideas, again, a party of reform, so that way we have -- we're in