back with me now is kevin madden, -- nayyera haq, -- naeher talib. -- >> it's a lot of work -- it's probably mccarthy is up against, not just 19 people or 20 people at this point. it's a so-called five families happening right now. cnn's melanie zanona and lauren fox actually reporting that there are, quote, these five families in the gop that mccarthy has had two -- talks with. eve got different ideologies, you've got the republican study committee -- freedom caucus, gop governance group there probably some more. as long as the democrats don't have their own spectrum within their party. but just look at, that kevin, and think about what he is up against to try to placate, to give concessions to. it's a losing battle. >> it's not new. and managing minority factions not anything -- it's part of the job -- i think the real problem here is that since 2016, since the ascension of trump and -- maga element of the party, mccarthy and other republican leaders across the country, even in state parties, has really tried to placate the folks that sort of represent the house freedom caucus element. and

back with me now kevin madden, nayyera haq and margaret talev. it's not an enticing job. lot of work. it's probably not particularly gratifying, although the speaker adds you're linked in just fine. however, kevin mccarthy is up against not just 19 people or 20 people at this point. it's a so-called five families happening right now. and cnn was reporting that there are these, quote, five families in the gop that mccarthy has had to be in talks with. you have different ideologies. you have the republican study committee, problem sovrks freedom caucus, gop governance group. there are probably some more. it's not as if the democrats don't have their own spectrum want their party. but just look at that, kevin, and think about what he sort of up against to try to play indicate, to give concessions to. it's a losing battle. >> well, it's not new. and that's one of the things about the house of representatives is the managing minority factions within your conference or caucus is not a new thing. it's part of the job. i think the real problem here is since 2016, since the ascens

political commentator, maria cardona, former top aide to mitt romney's presidential campaign, kevin maddene laura braun lopez is back with us as well. maria, i want to get your reaction here. this term, latinx, is not one that is as prevalent or used or even welcome all the time. correct? >> that is correct. and i actually don't even use it myself, i don't really identify with it. but you know what, if i am talking to a group of young, latinx who will probably have lgbtq in that group, they do identify with the term latinx. and i will absolutely use the term latinx, because i don't want to make anyone feel unwanted or rejected. and spanish is a term that is gendered, in latino and latina are gendered terms. i understand why young people in the latino community that are lgbtq want to use it, and i am all for that. how dare she make this distinction, with the excuse that she's going to ban it, because it's insensitive. i mean, it was so insulting, but if it wasn't so insulting, it would be laughable. this is coming from the person who worked for donald trump, who did everything in his power

well, let's talk to former labour adviser and associate editor of labour uncut , kevin madden. morning. good morning. what are we to make of this? because, i mean, what is clear from the government said, you government is this said, you know, this is not a long term strategy in a sense, but something to be to something needs to be done to take action. think take immediate action. i think that's very much the of that's very much the tenor of it. so what's going to happen tomorrow the government tomorrow is the government will unveil the findings of its review into and emergency review into urgent and emergency care . now, no easy care. now, there are no easy opfions care. now, there are no easy options here. i mean, what we're seeing last month is, is that, you know, the kind of average waiting times for ambulances are exceeding , you know, 90 minutes exceeding, you know, 90 minutes that the average wage in and is exceeding 4 hours. so the front door of the nhs, which is under unprecedented pressure this winter, is under pressure every winter, is under pressure every winter . it i