we spoke with kevin manziel. --mansell. >> we will occasionally close stores.be lease obligation change and we close the store. i don't want to give the impression that we never close a store, but more generally, i think the fact that we leverage ,ur stores for on the channel or fulfill out of our stores customers online orders, we think that stores are really, really important. across a large platform the country, its free will dispersed, so we are represented everywhere. believe in the future of stores, and i think if customers move even more to a buy it now and get it now mentality, and they are moving more that way, stores are naturally going to be more important, not less important. even this year, we are up to about 25% of the online orders are fulfilled out of our stores. julia: you think that will be enough to counter falling traffic, declining same-store sales as you look forward over the next few years. >> combined with other strategies -- i think i'll longer-term basis, we don't really see traffic declines consistently over time. there are strategies