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and i want to talk more about it now with kevin mcmanus who joins me. is the head of pr and communications at pasadena humane society. thank you so much for being with us, kevin. have you ever seen anything like this? it must be difficult to see so many animals having to come in in these circumstances. we have not seen anything like this. i mean, we've had our share of near misses with fire in the past. we've had some evacuations and we've had to kind of mobilise because we are like the emergency pet shelter for the area. unfortunately, that is in fact affected by the eaton fire. so, yeah, i've, i've never seen anything like it. and it is incredibly heartbreaking to see all of these animals and the people bringing them to us. you know, the first night when we people didn't know and they a lot of people still don't know if they have a home to go back to, but they knew to have their pets with them when they evacuated, which is such a blessing. and now they're here, and we're trying to give them the best experience possible until their owners can come back