this coupled with wework's banks worrying about going -- joining me to discuss in new york, kevin mcneilctor of technology where it was downgraded to a b. if me the biggest reason for the downgrade. kevin: essentially since we rated them in april of 2018, the company raised subsequent capital and then pursued a more aggressive strategy. it basically increased its cost structure quite substantially. it increased its headcount by over 12,000 people. it is investing at of growth. we now see the point at which the company will become profitable has now pushed out several years from where we thought it would be. taylor: going forward, what would be a further catalyst for another downgrade or your biggest downside risk? kevin: it is too early to tell at this point. when we made the rating change in august, it was predicated on the company going forward with its capital raising plan. with the capital raising plan, it does plan to grow quite aggressively. financingent that its plan changes and its investment plan is changing accordingly, then we will look to potentially reevaluate the rating at