my name is kevin o'malley. i'm chairman of the business leadership forum here at the club and your host for tonight. our program tonight is "food fights for the 21st century." women's voices driving change. our panelists are judi shils, zen honeycutt, deborah coons garcia and our moderator christie dames. we're going to turn it over to audience questions now. if you are here, if you would not going around the back and coming up the hall way so we don't have you on camera. deborah i'm going to ask the first question that a lot of people, if you have -- you had a fairly famous husband, who was -- is an important part of your life, as well. people wanted to know, what did jerry think about organic foods and eating right? >> well, yeah. when i first met him 40 years ago, they were not really into organic food, but i was so i was pushing, a health fanatic and stuff. but it was very hard to eat well back then. especially if you're a vegetarian or trying to eat healthy food if you're on the road a lot. by the '90s, th