we've been on the phone with kevin o'rourke. kevin, thank you for joining me and my deep condolences to you and the actors that worked on the sopranos. a sad day. >> a very sad day. he was a generous and loyal actor and supportive of the other people on the show. he came from the theater and he was one of those act tomorrows you could tell had that foundation in the way he did his work. i was lucky enough to work with him in that instance and also, he would generously donate time to the screen actors guild when i was on the committee. he was a very, very big-hearted wonderful, as judy said, a wonderful big hearted giant of a guy not at all like his charter on the sopranos. >> were you aware, was the cast aware of any health issues? >> well, at that time -- this -- we worked together along time ago, and he was -- it's funny because he was just beginning -- when i worked with james, the sopranos had not yet aired, so nobody knew what it was. no one knew the phenomenon it would turn into. the first day on the set he turned to me and