he had a tip the democrats were getting kickbacks in their convention -- kevin philips provided this they thought it was -- worth exploring. and this is what they're looking for. >> host: a twitter question going back to the ideology of the republican party. >> guest: one thing, he's -- he's a belts and braces-type campaign. even ahead he wants to make sure he's very ahead. wants that best landslide he can begun. >> host: mr. dean, will the future of republican party be determined by moderates like yourself remaining active in the party? >> guest: i'm, of course, an independent and i can't tell you how many friends who were very good republicans. provided a lot of money to the republican party. they have decided that they're not comfortable with the republican politics anymore. it's too bad. a lot of people in the business community feel that, you know, the republicans are best for them. you know, i'm not sure that's true. and there are many, many more just now declaring themselves independents and going where they think they can best spend their money because politics does require m