i wish you would get the fellow on that wrote that money, kevin phillips. host: actually, i have his book on my desk, and we are trying to schedule them. caller: wonderful. i get these people calling in sorry for general motors. why do they have a homer to begin with? why did they spend $5 billion on saturn when they had four good cards -- chevrolet, cadillac, pontiac, and oldsmobile? the idiocy of some of the officers of these companies is appalling. steve, thank you for the call. you do a great job, and thank you for c-span. i look forward to camp films being on. host: terrific. there is a story front page -- i look forward to kevin phillips being on. host: terrific. go ahead, craig. caller: i have followed the deficits for years and i always wondered, why the republicans are so into this now. bush ran up $6 trillion worth of debt, and they did not make one people. before that, bush 43 only contributed $1 trillion. reagan contributed $four trillion. host: these headlines, "penske is close to buying saturn." detroit business line and roger penske led the d