also have one of the star ibm coordinators with me tonight from the recreation parks department, kevin roland. and i can't sing his praises loudly enough, but he has been doing really wonderful things with rec and park. and he'll be available for questions when we get to that or if you have any now. so, the goal really is to minimize environmental health risk from pests and pesticides. it's not just about reducing pesticides because there are problems we have to address out there in the city unfortunately, and these are tools sometimes that we need. the program itself really revolves around a stakeholder process, it involves all the city departments that use pesticides. we meet monthly. this is really the heart and soul of the program. and i think it's fair to say that there are hundreds of people, hundreds of city employees involved with landscape maintenance and building maintenance who are not just on board, but really passionate about this program. it's really a great sort of institutional culture, i think, for the ipm program. what goes into the -- well, let's see. let me start off with