. >> joining me now is kevin roose, a technology columnist from "the new york times."y theory. thanks for being with us and being in the documentary. we heard from the former follower. who realized their theories and believes are completely made up. were helping qanon. the idea that is an actual idea that some of the followers believe, i do not understand rationally how someone does that. are they ever able to give you a good explanation for why they believe these really insane theories? >> some of it is what he told you. she has posted thousands of times about celebrities, democrats, about things that he believes are happening in the deep state. so, it is partly that. i think that q has sort of become a big tent conspiracy theory that really has engulfed every other major conspiracy of the last 50 years. you will find people on qanon talking about 9/11, aliens, people talking about the moon landing. basically every major conspiracy theory has been wrapped into qanon in this really interesting and troubling way. >> they have done something that is very smart. they have