tom: kevin rudd will be with us in the next hour. brendan: one last question. is this a one-off issue or is congress unstuck? peter: this is a one-off issue. you will not see paul ryan and mitch mcconnell working as hard on any other issue. this is republicans, the president, a handful of democrats and a lot of democrats -- powerful democrats -- standing in the way. tom: ready, set, lobby. bringing out the big guns to sell stories two senators of all stripe and color. how does your firm react to an announcement like this? >> there is a change that may be taking place in all of this. we are thinking that this packs will now go through and that is a very important thing for the country. tom: do you lobby for selected groups? >> no. tom: did they call you? >> we tend to look at this and think about what is best for the country. tom: what would you say to senator schumer this morning? he is a 1940's, 1970's mode whatever. >> it is global. that is the only way it has to work. we have to make these changes because we have to compete in the marketplace overall. brenda