i mean, he can make it very easy on himself, pick a guy named kevin warsh who, again, has been a republicanw if he has a ph.d. but gary cohn has got lightning rod all over him. and i tell you, don't dismiss the goldman sachs part. remember, draining the swamp is what president trump said during the campaign, this guy -- listen, he's a smart guy. i actually like the guy, but he was part of that, you know, alleged swamp, let's say, and he was in knee-deep in goldman sachs activities during the financial crisis. so i just laid it out to you. not an easy pick. steve: absolutely. and so her term ends next year. we'll see if the president nominates him. meanwhile, what exactly happens at sun valley? ainsley said there are a bunch of bigwigs out there. who are they and what do they do? >> well, our boss is out here, rupert maydock, the last time i was here, i was thrown out because i had an argument with a security guard. so just full disclosure there. and the security here is very, very tight. there is just about every major media mogul here. this is a place where deals get done. and i tell you,