when our guys our military guys are indiscriminately shooting civilians i pose that question to kevin zeese a member of the bradley manning support network here's what he said. so i guess we are having some trouble. you know a lot going on here in terms of this bradley manning case and it is expected to last at least five days just the preliminary part of this there are so many different aspects of this we of course have been covering this since the first day since the wiki leaks video was revealed i personally went to the press conference interviewed julian a songe i think we have my interview now with kevin zeese with the bradley manning support network. exactly that's that's exactly what the documents and videotapes that bradley manning is accused of leaking show us foreign policy needs a major reevaluation when you move away from militarism and empire foreign policy and move toward a policy of diplomacy and that's what music come out of. the manning for a while is important for barely manning and for the contrary but what's even more important is the discussion of our foreign policy and

soldiers killing civilians in iraq the charges he's facing could carry the death penalty well kevin zeese is from the bradley manning support network in washington d.c. is joining us now kevin very good evening to you thanks for being on your organizations become a part of your manning to be free what are your reasons for demanding his release could you briefly outline for us. well first off we think that manning is not someone who's a traitor he was. documents to foreign enemies he didn't profit from them he is accused of giving them to the media and what he gave the media were allegedly were very low level documents low security and probably should not have been declassified documents at all if you look at video of the area where the documentary the computers were used for these documents they had the password stuck on the computer so anybody had access to them in fact hundreds of thousands of people did have access to these documents there are very little secrets no negative impact on national security we're also worried that i mean you can't get a fair trial president obama has alread

some really important points there and i want to talk about all of this and i've got kevin zeese here a member of the bradley manning support network to talk to me about this and you we just saw you kevin in liz's report i want to talk about something that you said the kind of stuck out you said if truth is undermining our national security then there's something wrong with the truth i mean i think it's interesting that on one hand there's these people who say you know leaking secrets might reveal things that people in other countries hate and they'll hate us more for it but does it also affect our national security when our guys our military guys are indiscriminately shooting gunning down people on the streets of baghdad exactly that's that's exactly what the documents and videotapes that bradley manning is accused of leaking show us foreign policy needs a major reevaluation for militarism and empire foreign policy to move toward a policy of diplomacy and that's what music come out of. the manning for a while is important for bradley manning and for the country but what's even more i

security when our military guys are indiscriminately shooting civilians that's a question i posed to kevin zeese a member of the bradley manning support network. exactly that's exactly what the documents and videotapes that bradley manning's accused of leaking show us foreign policy needs a major re-evaluation we move away from militarism and empire foreign policy and move toward a policy of diplomacy and that's what needs to come out of this the manning trial is important for bradley manning and for the country but what's even more important is a discussion of our foreign policy it's way off track it's been all cracked for a long time and need to get reconsidered and reevaluate and change dramatically and i hope that the documents that were released where the bribe meaning or anybody else whatever weeklies put out there was a show we need to really reconsider what we're doing i think also the documents there are hundreds of thousands of them but the video as well a lot of people i know we have it on our web site more than a million hits if you watch this video in full it's not just that these a

in fact robert gates the secretary sense at the mercy of no one was harmed by this and that was kevin zeese a member of the bradley manning support network. now i want to talk about last night's republican presidential debate the final debate finally before the iowa caucuses on january third i got to say it was a little less fun and exciting without herman cain but one exchange from last night is worth noting it's a back and forth between michele bachmann and ron paul on the issue of iran. about a shadow of a doubt that with iran will take a nuclear weapon they will use it to wipe our ally israel off the face of the map and they have stated they will use it against the united states of america look no further than the iranian constitution which states on equivocally that their admission their mission is to extend shahade across the world and eventually to set up a worldwide caliphate we would be fools and needs to ignore their purpose and their plan. obviously i would like to see a lot less nuclear weapons i don't want iran to have a nuclear weapon i would like to reduce them because there

military diplomatic data to the whistleblower web site that's what a former cia officer and activist kevin zeese told me manning is already being pre-judged by top officials and faces a dark future. we think that manning is not someone who's a traitor he was. documents to foreign enemies who profit from them he is accused of giving them to the media what he gave to me were allegedly were very low level documents low security and probably should not have been the last of our documents at all were also words i mean you can't get a fair trial president obama has already announced that he's guilty he's the commander in chief it's a command structure in the military cerebrally who is in the wagners trough. judge the jury under president obama's command their careers on the land line they are no choice but to say manning is guilty if they want to keep their military career since the president or is that he's guilty a soldier who's in that situation is the choice of ignoring the nuremberg principles and becoming complicit in these crimes or exposing those crimes if meaning is guilty of what he's accuse

detention for nineteen months and could face life in prison or even execution of convicted and kevin zeese from the bradley manning support network says the soldier will hardly ever see the fire trial after. president obama i think that. we think that manning is not someone who is a traitor he was. documents to foreign enemies he didn't profit from them he is accused of giving them to the media and what he gave to me were allegedly were very low level documents low security in fact probably should not have been declassified documents at all were also words i mean you can't get a fair trial president obama has already announced that he's guilty he's the commander in chief it's a command structure in the military sorry body who's involved in the judge the jury under president obama's command and their careers on the land line there is no choice but to say manning is guilty if they want to keep their military career since the president already said he's guilty soldier who is in that situation is a choice of ignoring the nuremberg principles and becoming complicit in these crimes or exposing t

that our justice system isn't exactly fair and what can be done to fix it her disgust with me is kevin zeese president of commonsense for drug policy he's also an organizer of occupy washington d.c. kevin thanks so much for joining and common sense would work but also you know you all want to tell you whether you have so many or that you know we'll try a different out every time you come out of the show let's start with just what the fundamentals right what it is to have a presidential pardon i mean i think it's a pretty interesting thing it was a lot of power in the hands of the president and they try to do what they can especially since the clinton administration to hand it over to the official pardon attorney's office so it doesn't look like there's any political involvement here because at the end of the day you're always going to get judged for who you did pardon who you didn't pardon but itself is this is going to process that you think can be removed from being seen as a political move it's tough to go you know the pardons. i think under-utilized presidents the united states has a gig

accused of leaking classified military and diplomatic data to the whistle blowing web site and kevin zeese from the bradley manning support networks as the soldier will hardly receive a fair trial after president obama has stated that he is guilty. is not someone who is a traitor he was. documents to foreign enemies who profit from them he is accused of giving them to the media what do you do when you were allegedly were very low level documents low security and that i probably should know the loss of our documents. we're also worried that i mean we can't get a fair trial president obama has already announced that he's guilty he's the commander in chief it's a command structure in the military sorry buddy who is in the wagners trial from the judge the jury under president obama's command and their careers on the land line there is no choice but to say meaning is guilty if they want to keep their military career since the president already said he's guilty a soldier who is in that situation is a choice of ignoring the nuremberg principles and becoming complicit in these crimes or exposing t