does it bolster the case for the keystone pipeline? and former new york governor eliot spitzer takes a page from the anthony weiner playbook and jumps back into politics. voters seem inclined to give them bothing a second chance. but why? >> people who suggested that will's anything unusual about the delay of the deadline and implementation of a complex and comprehensive law are, you know, deliberately sticking their heads in the santd or willfully ignorant about past precedent. >> welcome to "the journal editorial report." that was white house press secretary jay carney wednesday defending the obama administration's decision not to enforce a key part of the affordable care act. some say that in defiance of the law. the administration claims it has the legal authority to delay the employer mandate until 2014 and insist it is rest of obama care is still on track. but gop leaders called on president obama this week to extend the same break to american families and delay the individual mandate as well. >> if it were up to the president to

keystone is not a jobs plan. it's a jobs start. nobody ever claimed that the keystone pipeline was going to be all we needed to get a robust economy going. so once again, he wants people focusing on his careless use of numbers, trying to figure out what is right, what is wrong. that's distraction politics, in my opinion. >> neil: well in this environment, any job is better than no job. but good points, herman cain. >> neil: president obama is not backing away from the phony line. >> so far for most of this year we have seen an endless parade of distractions and political posturing and phony scandals. >> neil: wait a minute. forget about whether republicans were making a big deal about this. >> i am angry about it. i will not tolerate behavior in the agency, but especially in the irs. >> neil: okay. forget what the republicans were creating a big stink about. the justice department spying on reporters. the president said the department crossed a very big line, spying on reporters. >> journalists should not be at legal risk for doing

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policy in the debate of the keystone pipeline. then the special inspector general for afghanistan discusses his latest report concerning afghanistan reconstruction efforts. host: good morning everyone. all 100 senators have been invited to a closed-door meeting in the old senate chamber this meeting to discuss the so-called nuclear option. harry reid wants to change senate rules to allow a simple majority vote on nonjudicial nominees, rather than the current 60 vote threshold. 10:30 a.m. eastern time here on c-span. we will begin on the "washington journal closed quote with the george zimmerman verdict. send us a tweet, if you go to twitter.com/cspanwj. we want to get your thoughts on the implications of the zimmerman verdict. here is what president obama had to say in a statement he put out yesterday on the zimmerman verdict. he said -- "the new york times editorial" weighs in this morning -- what are your thoughts on this? stand your ground law, should they be debated and revised? , where the verdict took place, this is "the mia

you're not making the case for the keystone pipeline or against the keystone pipeline whatsoever. it's cheaper oil, cheaper crude oil. we can refine it, and -- with the way, we'll use that gasoline. who says we're going send it somewhere else? >> it's expensive. it's expensive crude because you -- first off you have to mine two tons of sand so get one barrel of that -- >> we'll use the gasoline. we're not going to ship it somewhere else at a higher cost. we'll use it. >> eric, right now, we're producing more oil in the united states than we have at any time in 25 years. so we're moving forward on many fronts weapon have to invest in a new kind of energy future. we can't bailed 21st century economy on the fossil fuels on the past in canada or the united states. >> bob, we have to leave it there. thank you, sir. >> thank you, eric. >> he pushed for. i now the tea party wants him to pay for it. why this border brawl just got a 0 lot nastier. >>> they may be home on break but they're not beating the heat. lawmakers getting an earful from constituents over the immigration bill. the pus

>> steve, maybe you know. >> i'm with anwar and keystone pipeline.ut with fracking causing earthquakes increighing threefold you'd be careful toing that in cal kpal. >> tracy, go ahead. >> brenda, i think one piece we're missing are state taxes. this piece of the gasoline price is not going away. that will continue to go up. couple that with gasoline prices going up higher than our wages. that's the bottom line. >> gary v, it will have an impact on the economy, don't you think? >> absolutely. you know, i want to get back to the point that jonas was making. you know, while we're doing relatively better than other countries, look, i don't want to compare ourselves to our countries because we can do a lot better rig here. we've shown that with a combination of coal, natural gas, oil, shale, oil that we have. we would not need to import one more barrel of oil for the next 500 yeyears. why we're not going down that path when we can lower prices even more, be energy independent and by the way create ton more jobs is baffling to me. >> 500 years? >> ye we h

devastated rivers wetlands drinking water reservoirs and wildlife should the keystone x.l. pipeline be given the green light by the obama administration it will cross through america's heartland over the source of fresh water drinking water for two million americans tar sands oil is also one of the most carbon intensive forms of energy substituting tar sands oil for conventional oil increases global warming emissions by a staggering twenty percent despite what trans canada may say in their press releases and public relations campaigns the keystone x.l. pipeline is a disaster waiting to happen and when that disaster does happen it will make us long for the good old days of normal disasters like the b.p. gulf oil spill dr james hansen former director of nasa as goddard institute for space studies and one of america's top climate scientists as said that the extraction use of tar sands oil is essentially game over for the climate we need to be taking the actions necessary to save our planet now not further destroy it call your members of congress and tell them to urge the obama

the winds are blowing against the keystone xl pipeline approval literally. opponents are planning to use windmills and solar farms to block its construction. one of the men leading the charge joins us. >>> plus an interesting turn in egypt. it has been plagued by blackouts and gas shortages but now all of a sudden that has stopped. were they part after plot to topple mohammed morsi and the muslim brotherhood? we have details that you will want to hear. >>> "who made money today?" they suffered more pain than just about anyone in the market this year but they have shimmering smiles today. stay tuned to find out who it is because even when they say it's not it is always about money. melissa: so we are starting to night with latest plan to block the keystone pipeline, both figuratively and literally actually. why not just build a wind turbine right in the way? that ii what they're thinking. a group of nebraska environmentalists and farmers are working to raise $65,000 to build renewable energy projects on land directly in the pipeline's path. we have the presid

i don't mean the keystone pipeline.rch, there's a keystone where any of the other stones will fall out and the arch will stay up, but if you take out the keystone, the whole thing will come crashing down. the keystone of what they're doing is attacking the ability of people to vote. the only way to get away with aggressively unpopular measures that are radically out of step with everything that has happened in your state in modern times, the only way to get away with that is make sure that public opinion in your state can never be used against you, that nobody can volt you out of office. that's exactly what republicans in the north carolina senate are expected to finish doing tomorrow, and then send to that governor. watch this space. . >>> good thursday morning to you. right now on "first look," a horrific train derailment killed 70. >>> new information about how far our government will go at snooping at us. >>> jfk's daughter to be nominated as ambassador to japan. and say hello to george alex ander luis. and bill bel

i don't mean the keystone pipeline. arch, there's a keystone where any of the other stones will fall out and the arch will stay up, but if you take out the keystone, the whole thing will come crashing down. the keystone of what they're doing is attacking the ability of people to vote. the only way to get away with aggressively unpopular measures that are radically out of step with everything that has happened in your state in modern times, the only way to get away with that is make sure that public opinion in your state can never be used against you, that nobody can volt you out of office. that's exactly what republicans in the north carolina senate are expected to finish doing tomorrow, and then send to that governor. watch this space. that does it for us tonight. we'll see you tomorrow. it's time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." >>> the suddenly prudish new york newspapers want anthony weiner out of the race for mayor, but he showed up at a candidate's forum tonight and he got a big laugh. >> we are follow

the keystone versus fracking in the u.s.hts on the implementation of both and what that could mean for jobs? >> well, the united states, like canada, is extremely fortunate to have discovered a vast amount of oil and natural gas, nonconventional, shale oil and natural gas, and it's clear this will make an enormous difference to the economy and to the economic well-being of north americans. fracking has been going on in british columbia and in alberta for well over 30 years. there hasn't been a single instance of water contamination during that period. so we consider it pretty safe. on the other hand, canadians who are not as familiar with the process in the east coast -- >> right. >> -- you know, want to do environmental studies to make sure that it is safe, and we're not going to go ahead with any projects that are not safe for canadians or safe for the environment. >> all right. we will leave it there. minister oliver, good to have you on the program. thank you so much. >> thank you very much. >> we'll see you soon. joe ol

the keystone pipeline will create only a handful of jobs.espite the "washington post" fact checker hammering president obama over it all ging him to pinocchio's. the "washington post" pointing out that using the white house own mat the president should be saying keystone to create as many as 7800 jobs, not 50. the secretary of state nouncing today that israeli and palestinian negotiators have agreed to meet again within two weeks to continue their negotiations. making that announcement at the state department after wrapping up the first direct talks between negotiators and three years. secretary kerrey has largely been leading the effort to become a this morning president obama dropped by meeting with negotiators for just under an half-hour. >> the president's support for our efforts including his rsonal engagement has been the essential, and the thinking for the. ofery positive meeting with the president and the vice-president earlier this morning at the white house. lou: botides setting a goal of reaching a deal within the next nine months

here is one way to stop the keystone pipeline, build a wind farm in its path. one group is pushing that to literally block the pipeline. meet a young entrepreneur who dropped out of school in the 8th grade, joined the military and now runs a multi-billion dollar business with employees. he's 29-- no, 27 years old. he's here in our next hour. the government's own bean counters have found $107 billion worth of bogus and excessive payments for 2012 and they're still counting. more waste still to be reported. that is taxpayer money wasted by the president's ever expanding government bureaucracy. here is my take. neither you, nor i, should be surprised. for years, we've been bombarded with news of government waste, fraud, gross inefficiency.

. >> i simply hope he does not approve the keystone xl pipeline.t of what has been written by people in the state department in their analysis which is not correct. they say, it's going to cause a lot of greenhouse gases but it's going to happen anyway. it's not going to happen anyway. the only way they'll be able to triple the amount, is they have the pipeline. the process of relying on the possible source of oil will be a huge step back in fighting climate change. i think the president understands that. he said he won't approve if it adds to the greater emissions. we're trying to see if that's a phase of art he's accepted, used and find some way out of what should be the obvious conclusion. reject that pipeline, let's go forward and not backward in dealing with climate change. >> really don't think that if we didn't build the pipeline, we could have locked this oil coming here to be refined. it wouldn't be used by somebody else. china wouldn't want the oil. it seems that's -- >> of course they want the oil. india would want the oil. that's why we

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lee i mean you know here he is golfing with oil and gas executives instrumental in building the keystone pipeline at the same time tens of thousands of people are marching at his doorstep demanding for him to listen to halt the keystone pipeline so either side is going to do the right thing that lee horris to as long as his researchers don't have the keystone pipeline won't cause any problems are related to that they've already said a few times so yeah as long as they don't do that then we're fine but it's kind of amazing how and it's not just obama but it's a lot of people we could ignore climate change no matter how close you know now that the reports are like people on fire in california the people are going to spontaneously combusted probably live in a fiery area right there probably storing dry stuff in their homes like old magazines and elderly people you know don't come knocking at our door every time some little crap goes down under water we'll tell them to move to alderney they don't have brassica we're going to be busted and the following you know we're already in this battle a

like i mean you know here he is golfing with oil and gas executives instrumental in building the keystone pipeline at the same time tens of thousands of people are marching at his doorstep demanding for him to listen to halt the keystone pipeline is our side is going to do the right thing so horace to as long as his researchers don't have the keystone pipeline won't cause any problems and we have to do that they've already said a few times so yeah as long as they don't do that then we're fine but it's kind of amazing how and it's not just obama but it's a lot of people we could ignore climate change no matter how close you know now that the reports are like people on fire in california and people are going to stop it is like going bust a drug we live in a fiery area right there probably storing dry stuff in their homes like old magazines and elderly people you know don't come knocking at our door every time some little crap goes down under water we'll tell them to move to alderney they're just like i don't have breasts we're going to be busted and the following you know we're going this b

assure about the keystone xl pipeline and how that should be viewed. what happens if he does sign off on that pipeline? what does that say about his dedication to that climate problem. it seems they're all putting the eggs in one basket. what does that say about his issue that he seems to be so strongly dedicated to? >> i certainly hope he does not approve. a lot of what has been written by people in the state department. it is not correct. aey say it is going to cause lot of greenhouse gases. it is going to happen anyway. the only way they will be able to triple the amount of oil in canada is if they have the pipeline. they can use railroad instead. tos is not a feasible way transporting -- to transport that oil. exceptople will not that pipeline. they will be able to develop it if they can ship it through the united states, have it refined in louisiana and the gulf and maybe it will stay here. of relying on the dirtiest possible source of oil will be a huge step back in fighting climate change. i think the president understands that. there is this ph

how to change the fate of the keystone at pipeline.lus, massive violence in the streets of egypt, a killing spree hits the military against the brought the muslim brotherh. more "money" coming up.ñíw@? melissa: from planes now to trained in the deadly derailment in canada. canadian police say the death toll is now 13. after a runaway train carrying crude oil derailed and exploded this weekend. it is a significant impact because more and more oil is being moved by rail. this could have a critical impact on the future of the keystone xl pipeline which is hanging in the balance. welcome to the show. richard, i want to find out exactly what her expertise is because it is impressive, you are a railroad operations and consultant, certified engineer with over 30 years of railroad experience. a contract administrator, you have training in accident reconstruction, based on the details you have heard so far, what do you think happened. >> last we heard was there was a runaway involved, very complex and troubling because trains are not supposed

one proposal, the massive keystone xl pipeline would carry crude through six states to refineries on the gulf coast. >> but there is so much oil being extracted it won't reduce the hundreds of tank cars rolling through towns like glasgow, montana, every day, valvely county commissioner bruce peterson says oil transported by rail or pipeline both have their down side. >> some day, keystone, the i am sure is going to spring a leak some place but anything man-made has never been perfect and if people want a perfe system, then we are on the wrong plan net, i think. >> dale tarum who farms near fort peck, montana worries about the recent derailments in the region. >> 35 cars that were derailed and everything that you would find in a target store was scattered across the country side, cleanup, bulldozers and clean that up, what do you do when you dump 37 cars of oil? >> in lac-megantic, helen hopkins greffard thanks transporting oil by rail is just too dangerous. >> i don't think the planes will ever come through here again. the people are up in arms. >> the american owners of the derailed

that's why we support the keystone pipeline.ut today the most important thing that's affecting us is the renewable fuel standard. valero is the third largest corn ethanol producer but the renewable fuel standard is out of control. it is broken. are going up probably as we speak. i'm told they're over $1.30 here per rin gallon. the rfs must be fixed. this cost is just skyrocketing. it was okay when the first law was passed in 2005 but when the new law, or the revised law in 2007, the ren program was not revised. we have announced that this is going to cost valero $750 million this year and with a ren price we're talking about now it will be much higher. we support and believeth noll will be a part of fuel mix in this country but the rfs is broken. there is no cellulosic to speak of. any other advanced ethanol has to be imported. this is not in the interests of our country. thank you very much for allowing me to speak andaway very proud to be part of this panel. >> thank you very much, mr. klesse. mr. gilligan, welcome. >> chairma

he has delayed and delayed the keystone pipeline. there are a million jobs the chamber of commerce has pointed out that have been delayed or killed because of regulatory burdens. they put seven pages -- stabbed seven pages high of regulations since the last regulation dropped conveniently after the 2012 election. he's proud of those. those kill jobs but he doesn't know that or he doesn't think it. on immigration, you asked about that, you know that in 2007 he was the one who killed immigration reform. he was the swing vote that stopped any sort of guest worker program and it was the poison pill that killed immigration reform. why do we think he's for it now when for two years in his presidency when he had super majorities in the house and senate he didn't lift a finger and when it did matter, he killed it in 2007. >> larry, let me jump in here. for grover norquist to say president obama is ant anti-immigration reform just strains credulity. but here's the thing. do you, grover and larry, this is a reality check for you guys. do you r

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president obama down raidgraded number of jobs the keystone pipeline would create saying only put 2,000 people to work. that's a much different number than his own state department predicted. it found the pipeline would employ close to 40,000 annually. this news comes as president obama hits the road again today for yet another economic tour. what will the message this week be. >> that is a good question. the president travels to chat nude ga, tennessee to push at this point about the economy. he visits the amazon fulfillment center to talk about manufacturing. aids say he will focus on government spending. >>> if we don't make the kind of investments we will see it in the top 1 percent and end up in a cycle that forces economic downturn. >> critics say the president is offering nothing new to help the economy. >> i find it astonishing he goes around making speeches in which he deploys the state of the economy the growing income and equality chronic unemployment stagnant middle class income and it's as if he has been a bystander, as if he has been out of the country for the last five ye

i'll start there, on the keystone pipeline.convinced that just, you know, watching the president now for the last five years, he would end up supporting the keystone pipeline for sure and yet in an interview with "the new york times," he said -- when they asked him about republicans say this is going to create thousands and thousands of jobs, the president says no, it's not. they're wrong. so he sort of gave some indication he's thinking the other way. >> i could see him going either way on this. he's in a second term now. all of the dust up from before was in the midst of a presidential election. you think about it practically speaking, why would building a giant pipeline create thousands of jobs? he said what? the actual construction of the pipeline would create a few thousand jobs maybe. and then you know, once it's built between 50 to 100 people working on maintenance. it is a pipeline. keeping it clean, making sure it is not leaking. >> bill: there are 150 million americans working. it is not a huge contributor. job contri

host: let's start with the keystone pipeline. you asked the question -- should the keystone xl pipeline be built? the results -- fill in what the numbers don't tell us. does give question both sides of the argument. reporting theays pipeline, will it eased our dependence on mideast oil? about what sorts of environmental impact like increased emissions or the possibility of a spill or disaster could result from that. that being said, when you look at this question, 67% supporting the building of the pipeline, that includes 56% of self identify democrats and that tells us that americans are leaning more toward the economic benefits of the keystone the sorts of energy developments. the are leaning away from environmental -- the possible environmental consequences host: the next question you had up -- the question of power plants. tougher regulations on power plants? newsay they should stop regulations. not much difference between the two categories. guest: this is close and this gets down to probably the biggest part of the debate w

i'm not oppose to the keystone pipeline. but we do know that it's not really -- i mean, from fact checkers and others who have looked at it, it's not really going to affect the price of gas. we can sit here and pretend it's going to be a massive panacea. it might marginally effect it a couple of cents. >> here is the issue. as much as going after coal -- as much as raising our ility bills is the issue, that part of the energy issue -- >> what part of the energy issue? >> going after coal, going after -- not driving those standards and grandfathering it in for power plants and the like, that all of a sudden are looking at having to make these expensive adjustments right now. i find it odd that these plants that really depend on coal, jul julie, are the ones that are going to get socked in the seats and these are the same plants that are going to power in those plug-in hybrid peps. >> oh, stop. you and i keep having this discussion every week. i'm going to tell you, coal is the -- i'm sorry for those people living in coal stat

project in other words if keystone wins baner makes money shouldn't this either a be against the law congress is carbon exemption from insider trading for themselves which brian baird the former congressman from washington state tried to do away with nancy pelosi actually got it out of the house republicans filibustered it the son died shouldn't this be either a legal or b. shouldn't boehner at least recuse himself many votes matthew or should he recused himself from. because he will profit will nancy pelosi doesn't recuse herself from votes about the minimum wage or boats on all the things she does not going to remotely greenly profitable business isn't it in american samoa where she doesn't have to actually pay the minimum wage that applies here on the mainland of the united lot a standard this isn't going to be this sort of sleazy. self-serving attitude is not and i'm not justifying it but it is not something that's limited to nancy pelosi and john boehner and other play answer my question i don't believe should be allowed in this bill also rating. peter schweitzer wrote a great b

with the new york times president obama dismissed claims repeatedly made by republicans that the keystone x.l. pipeline would add thousands of jobs and help to reduce unemployment in america. republicans have said that this is a big jobs. there is no evidence that that's true. and. my hope would be that any reporter who's looking at the facts. would take the time to concerned that's the most realistic estimates are that this might create maybe two thousand jobs durned the construction the pipeline which might take a year or so and then after that we're talking about somewhere between fifty and one hundred jobs. yes in the. economy of one hundred fifty million working people. will look at that they might like to see two thousand jobs. but that is a blip. relative the president also fought back against the talking point that the pipeline will help lower retail gasoline prices in our country he said that most of the oil would be destined for refineries on the gulf coast and then export it and that the pipeline might actually increase the price of gas in the midwest because that region would

this is why keystone and fracking is terrifying to obama.e thought what could save america is america itself, not him at all. kimberly, does he not know how things are made? like the pipelines come out of the sky, nobody really works on them, then they're there, and nobody has to take care of them. >> no. >> nobody has to go and check on them. >> you don't need inspectors. >> he cares about poll numbers, his numbers are slipping. that's a problem for him. this guy is in front of starbucks because no fracking sign, this is it. asked me three times to sign a petition against fracking in new york city. want to do it anonymously? no. it was crazy. >> eric, what is this with the government job program where you would say it is shovel ready. >> remember about two years ago tomorrow vilsack, secretary of agriculture said food stamps are actually good for the economy. for every dollar, 1.80 economic activity. they understand by spending money you create economic activity. part of the problem with that theory, that dollar came from taxpayers, $3 had

board now because it is his idea, and he sounded like a man who's about to block approval of the keystone xl pipeline. >> they keep talking about an oil pipeline coming down from canada, that's estimated to create 50 permanent jobs. that's not a jobs plan. >> reporter: even the business round table gave this lukewarm response, saying they support corporate tax rates, but has to be coupled with cleaning up the individual tax code. they went on to say they're not happy about what they call unrelated spending. bottom line, this plan has little chance of passage. >> ed henry on the north lawn, thank you. >>> stocks were mixed, dow lost one, s&p 500 gained a fraction, nasdaq up 17. >>> not guilty, that's the verdict in the most serious charge against the army private accused of aiding the enemy by giving troves of secrets to a website. bradley manning was convicted on other charges and faces serious time behind bars. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge has the rest of the story from fort meade, maryland. >> reporter: surrounded by security, bradley manning left military court s

certainly to john's point, the keystone pipeline was a major blow.o surprise the government did so long of a due diligence report and then didn't act on it. big deal. that pushes prices higher but that will be sucked out of the mark here getting into fall driving. >> john, what is more important, getting more oil, keystone pipeline, or getting more refining capacity? >> i think getting more refining capacity, but not just for oil, eric. let's get natural gas. let's get an alternative into the fuel mix so that we have competition, natural gas fuel or oil fuel. americans would be better off by increasing the capable to build an alternative fuel to gasoline. >> john, just want to point out, there were some protests yesterday in washington, dc. i think the president was attending a fundraiser, and we have a little tape there protesters, protesting him. they want the oil to start to flow. scott, let me talk to you quickly. 15,464. okay, they're telling me -- i'm sorry. they are protesting that they don't want the oil pipeline. my bad. scott, talk to me ab

let's begin with the keystone pipeline? why not go with the keystone pipeline. let's go with the epa's war on coal. which is a huge part of the economy in many tates. those are middle class, high pay jobs. why is isn't he helping there. tax reform, why not corporate tax reform. that would put torque in it. why not reparticiprepatriating l from otherseas. i did not -- from overseas. >> we need the tax reforms no question, but the missing political realism is the notion that he is not from washington and washington has a problem, it's not him. the problem is simple, if he wants to do the investments that he favors, that secretary reich favors, he can make a principal case in some circumstances, you have to free up the budget room to do it. the only way to do it is to do mandatory spending reforms and the democrats have have kept it off the table. he will not take on his congressional democrats to make the room so he is frozen. >> let me make a point here, i think, doug, you are correct that we have got to be able to afford all of this. but, there are two things th

the president takes on republicans over how many jobs the keystone pipeline would actually create. the president has sent a cryptic message that they mean an approval of that pipeline. hey linda! what are you guys doing? having some fiber! with new phillips' fiber good gummies. they're fruity delicious! just two gummies have 4 grams of fiber! to help support regularity! i want some... [ woman ] hop on over! [ marge ] fiber the fun way, from phillips'. >>> certainly you've heard of the rumble in the jungle and the thrilla in manila. now there's the battle over bacon. rand paul and chris christie still at it, slamming each other over their fiscal conservative credentials. take a listen. >> i find it interesting that senator paul is accusing of us having a gimme, gimme, gimme attitude toward federal spending, when in fact new jersey is a donor state. and interestingly, kentucky gets $1.51. >> this is the king of bacon, talking about bacon. you know, we have two military bases in kentucky, and is governor christie recommending that we shut down our military bases? he wants to be this g

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ask you them what they're going to do for jobs, their answer is approve the keystone pipeline. >> billif you asked me two weeks ago or even a week ago, what the president was going to do, i would say he would approve the pipeline. after that interview, i think you're right. it is an indication where he's going. and now this story. i mean if you're -- whatever the pipeline company is called and you're trying to sell this pipeline and you've got massive leak in alberta that's been going on for ten weeks, don't you think you would try to keep the leak secret? >> they have. i haven't seen too many stories on this. >> bill: one other story, think progress -- so much this week. rush limbaugh and sean hannity, wow. >> who? >> bill: yeah, right. losing stations. >> 40 stations, the biggest, wabc in new york, their big affiliate, both limbaugh, hannity, maybe us. they couldn't reach a deal between the distributors and cumulative -- cumulus. 40 big markets. it is tough. if you don't have the new york market, it is tough to sell ads, right? >> bill: tell me about it. >> i think it also speaks to