kgalema motlanthe, new political home? —— anc stalwart.otla nthe, welcome new political home? —— anc stalwart. kgalema motlanthe, welcome to hardtalk. in kew. thank you stephen. thank you to the viewers. —— thank you. i will start with some of your own very words. you said if the anc is no longer addressing the problems of our people, we may as well begin writing its obituary. have you written that obituary? but yet. not yet. because the obituary is to be written by the people themselves. you think it is inevitable? is not inevitable. it depends on how the anc positions itself and how it renews itself, and how it connects to the people and we begin to understand that it exists for the sole purpose of addressing the concerns of the people. well, what the people have seen since you said that rather damning statement, what the people have seen is a raft of allegations, which can loosely put under the umbrella of accusations of state capture. that key business people, and many associated with one family, have peddled enormous amounts of influe

my guest is former interim president of south africa and anc stalwart, kgalema motlanthe. most respected anc members ready to contemplate a new political home? kgalema motlanthe, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. thank you, stephen. thanks to the viewers. it's a pleasure to have you here. and if i may, i'll start with some of your own very well chosen words, from a year ago. back then, you said "if the anc is no longer addressing the problems of our people, well, we may as well begin writing its obituary." have you written its obituary? not yet. not yet, you know, because the obituary really is to be written by the people themselves. do you think it is inevitable? it is not inevitable. it's not inevitable. it depends on how the anc positions itself and how it renews itself, and how it connects to the people and begin to understand that it exists for sole purpose of addressing the concerns of the people. well, what the people have seen since you said that rather damning statement, what the people have seen is a raft of allegations, which can loosely put under the umbrella of