keep in mind, that the president of russia, putin, was once head of the kgb, a kgb officer himself, leftge. he's known to be very volatile. he puts a lot of faith in his intelligence services. and he could have remembered it all these years and finally said, here, i'm doing it. i don't care what the negotiations are over syria or anything else. this is payback, absolutely possible. >> we remember, she was shown with a bunch of wigs, too. and her alleged espionage ring in new york, and the other russians picked up waiting supposedly to be activated. that's my sense it could have been payback. i'm sure we'll learn more down the road. bob, thanks very much. >> thanks. >>> we received a statement today from a man who reports, say he was visited by tamerlan tsarnaev just before the boston ma are marathon bombing. his statement today says, and i'll read it to our viewers, i would like to state that i barely knew the tsarnaev family, and only met them for the first time after we moved to the united states. during the very few encounters which were initiated by tsarnaev, we have never discussed

the fsb is what the kgb used to be. at one point at a table, they lay out and show us all the spy gear they allegedly caught him with. here's the thing. this was the long, oddly transfixing video we got from the russians earlier this week when they arrested ryan fogle. now i want you to watch this. this is an excerpt from a soviet era documentary in 1986 showing a cia operative named michael sellers arrested and interrogated at kgb headquarters in '86. look at it side by side. we see both men being taken in for questioning, sitting awkwardly at this table, almost from the same angle. in the videos, we can't see the identity of the men who are with them and asking questions, and in both cases, we see this amazing table of spy gear. multiple pairs of eyeglasses, reporting devices, right down to each of them having a light colored wig that fits into a hat. this arrest this week in moscow, this oddly choreographed performance for the cameras of the arrest of the supposed american spy in moscow this week, it's basically an e

who was a veteran kgb official in the '80s. he's now of course russia's president. eric o'neil says this stage craft in this detaining the of a spy is one of putin's trademarks. >> brian todd will have more in the "situation room" later today. let's go to the white house. jay carney, the press secretary, squlaus walked in and he's going to be answering some questions. >> benghazi talking points, irs reviews, political groups, justice department review of journalists' phone records. in every instance either the president our had placed the burden of responsibility someplace else, the benghazi talking points, the political motivations on the hill, on the irs, it's been the bureaucrats at the irs and on the justice department issue yesterday in your statement you said those matters are handled independently by the justice department. but it is the president's administration. so i wonder doesn't responsibility for setting tone and setting direction ultimately rest with the president on these matters? >> well, the responsibility to

government then and were exposed as soviet, later kgb spies? >> guest: well, i'm sure you're thinking of alger hiss as one -- >> host: and? >> guest: before i get to the other ones i think it's important to note before the whistle was blown, whitaker chambers was coming to organize a cell at the state department, and the first agent in that cell whom he met on his day of arrival in washington was alger hiss. >> host: right. but i also ask, too, what i -- [inaudible] harry dexter white. but he was by no means alone. i mean, loughlin curry was another agent in the white house. he was called an administrative assistant which was devised under roosevelt, essentially, to amplify his power. he was crippled, and this was the idea that he would have these very powerful assistants who could do things with force and energy. they, they dominated different portfolios. loughlin curry's portfolio was china. he was very instrumental in the loss of china and, indeed, this was, you know, something we know, we know on the record. so there were many others, there

. >> they did not want to worry about a war on the eastern plains so what happened was the kgb agent came to washington and had lunch with harry dexter white across the street from the treasury and gave him language to insert into the cable flow going to the united states and japan and arab diplomats are working very hard to reach that event to prevent the war. this is 1941 ready for pearl harbor and indeed that language went to what was considered as the american ultimatum for war at the end of the november. >> host: it was a deal to made about the for that trying to cut supply on raw materials tea was still trying to prevent this. this also goes on in tokyo a very prized soviet agent with the situation to promote war party said you actually had a brilliant soviet influence operation. intelligence. here is the part of sdi is the most people don't seek about and it is the more important and even dangerous aspect. it is not a little secret here. >> host: you know, what i am referring to but those whose drop the word to promote research and policy committees can be subtle. >> host: do

he is a former kgb agent. punchedid that he someone during a television chat show in 2011. >> arriving at the start of the trial, one of the richest men. he is accused of hooliganism based on political hatred. he denies the charges. >> i do understand the charges, because there was no political patronage, and there could not been anything from strangers. and was aggressively provocatively. >> a number of russian oligarchs have been invited to debate the economy on national television. there was discussion with a paratrooper that got heated. before boiling over. >> he claims he hit her because he feared he would strike first. the trial has raised some serious concerns, so perhaps he is on trial for political reasons. a newspaper has been very critical of vladimir putin. to sparring partner failed appear in court. according to the lawyer, he is believed to be in israel after leaving cambodia, where he faces alleged kidnapping and assault charges. the trial continues. aljazeera, moscow.

>> i think vladimir -- you know, once kgb always kgb. if he can get the united states to take the heat on this and not come down on his client too hard, i think that's what he'll do. >> john: we just cited a poll that showed that most americans aren't interested in any engagement. i think that that's probably true of most people in the world. how do you see the syria conflict playing out unless the americans get involved in some way? >> i don't think there's any scenario by which the syrian conflict ends peaceably right now. i think it ends badly and the question is does it end badly with the united states involvement or not? >> john: president obama says he will re-engage with congress over closing the prison at guantanamo bay. charlie, this guy ran in 2008 on closing guantanamo and the american people elected him then he seemed to be hamstrung. at times it seems like this is his don't ask, don't tell. how do you expect his negotiations and his reengagement with congress to go especially when 86 of the inmates have been cleared for rele

in 2006, a former kgb officer was killed here by plutonium poisoning.rmer bosses in moscow, so many fingers pointed in that direction. but last week a judge presiding over the inquiry agreed to a british government request to exclude evidence relating to the possible involvement of russian state agencies. what is going on? to talk about all of this, a former spy, matthew dunn was a field operative in mi-6, just like james bond. he's now the author of "the spy catcher" series of novels. and edward lucas is by day the international editor of "the economist" but he's also an author of "deception: the untold story of east/west espionage today." thank you for joining us. so matthew, the wig, the cash, do spies really move around like this? the whole thing seemed unbelievable. >> yes, they do. when i have deployed overseas, i used wigs. some of the props that were found in the case of fogle when they're laid out on table, they can look amateur itch and bizarre. but they are the props of the trade. typically they work 99.9% of the time. >> you have also writte

for example, she was accused of being a kgb agent. the yellow press claimed that she was a lesbian. the candidate denied the allegations. despite all this, she went on to win the election in a landslide and became lithuania's first female president. >> her campaign platform, although it was short on specifics, was based on a clear political vision -- the fight against corruption, the oligarchs, and the underground economy. that was the centerpiece of her platform. she believed that if she could stand up corruption, she would make a name for herself as president. >> after the election, she supported the government's efforts to cut the federal budget. lithuania's economy recovered and is growing quickly. for her efforts, she was awarded this year's charlemagne prize. >> it is prize not for me, really. it is prized for my people for handling and for patients to handle this situation. economic difficulties which we had during last few years. it is also respect for the entire baltic region. all three countries suffered. >> she is an ardent supporter of european unity. most analysts agree

the fsb is what the kgb used to be like, right?n they lay out on the table and show us the spy gear they allegedly caught him with. here is the thing. this is the long oddly transfixing video we got from the russian is last week of ryan fogal. now look at this. this is a documentary from 1986 showing a cia operate of named michael sellers arrested and interrogated in 1986 opinion look at the video side by side. we see both men taken in for questioning. seeing them sitting awkwardly at this table. almost from the same angle. in both videos we can't see the eye didn identity of the men can them and asking them questions. then there is a table of spy care. multiple eye glasses, recording devices, a loit colored wig that fits into a hat. this arrest this week in hoss could you, this oddly choreographed performed for the cameras arrest for the supposedly american spy in moscow this week is basically an exact replay of the exact thing that russians did to great propaganda effect in 1986. right down to the retro cold war era spy gear that

for example, she was accused of being a kgb agent. the yellow press claimed that she was a lesbian. the candidate denied the allegations. despite all this, she went ono e and became lithuania's first female president. >> her campaign platform, although it was short on specifics, was based on a clear political vision -- the fight against corruption, the oligarchs, and the underground economy. that was the centerpiece of her platform. she believed that if she could stand up corruption, she would make a name for herself as president. >> after the election, she supported the government's efforts to cut the federal budget. lithuania's economy recovered and is growing quickly. for her efforts, she was awarded this year's charlemagne prize. >> it is prize not for me, really. it is prized for my people for handling and for patients to handle this situation. economic difficulties which we had during last few years. it is also respect for the entire baltic region. all three countries suffered. >> she is an ardent supporter of european unity. most analysts agree that the charlemagne prize was

now russia's federal security service, which is the successor to the kgb, has outed the cia's allegedhief in moscow. that's a pretty significant job at the cia. the breach of protocol raises questions about america's top spy agency. bob baer station chief, thanks so much for taking the time. i guess the main question here is, this alleged cia station chief, right, was working at the embassy. i mean, the most senior guy in one of the most important posts on the planet. is that normal he would have just been working at the embassy? >> absolutely, erin. because in a place like russia, american spies need the vienna convention, the diplomatic immunity to protect them. you wouldn't just send someone to moscow. they would end up in jail for years. it's been a tradition. just like the kgb, when they send people to washington, new york, are under official cover, yes. >> so official cover. so that part adds up to you. does it add up that he would have been outed? is this just the russians making a decision, that it would be standard, they would know? or is this something where the cia may have

. >> reporter: in the most famous case, a kgb agent, operating in london in 1978, killed a soviet defector by injecting ricin into him from the tip of an umbrella. and u.s. officials say al qaeda continues to try to find a way to use ricin in terror attacks. but for all that, no one in the u.s. has ever died or been seriously harmed from ricin mailed in letters. mostly because the poison, home-made from castor beans and online recipes, was poorly produced. still, former fbi agent brad garrett says the intent to harm is obvious. >> so the concern is that anybody that would send something like that through the mail, clearly, in their mind, want to kill somebody. >> officials told abc news late today they suspect this is the work of an amateur, because new tests show the level of the toxicity in the ricin is so low that no one was really ever at any risk at all. >> any other clue about who is behind it? >> no fingerprints so far. it's all in computer print, no handwriting. the only real clues, the substance of the text and that shreveport, louisiana post mark, and that's where the search now

. >> andrea: the way the affidavit reads, you would think rosen is in the kgb. slighted rick.othing criminal about the whole thing. there is nothing he has done in his reporting that is criminal whatsoever, nothing has to do with criminal behavior. i will point out this. white house does like some members of the media. on monday when they were drowning in scandals they had some liberal reporters for a secret meeting at the white house. jonathan kapart and sha=/l( was spotted going in. next day, some nice headlines for the president. >> bob: it was 1917 for the act, not 1938. if you are going to be doing things, you need to do it under an act that is modernized. >> greg: more support for my belief punish ground and ground them for one year, put salt peter in their diet and block all aspects of expansion. measures can actually do this. announce a moratorium on any government action. >> can we do three years? >> one year. >> i think will you get this on the twitter. >> bob: you vote. the government is get when you vote. >> dana: this is a good discussion. directly ahead the pres

the irs is the most feared agency in the world next to maybe the kgb. these are the people tasked with enforcing making sure that everyone has health insurance? it is a disaster. this woman got $103,000 in bow nesss. taxpayer funded money. was basically promoted and oversaw the targeting of conservative and religious groups and she is getting a promotion. you are telling me that no one know hass is going on here. >> mike: steven miller salt there with a straight face and said the reason this happened is they were just trying to be so efficient. >> hilarious. let's not forget, steven miller was fired. he is is gone. now, i underand it obama did not -- obama did not take him out to the middle of times square and flog him like people might want. i think this is a fair point when you apply for tax exempt status does that make you immediately above the law? can we not ask a question as to whether or not your application is, correct? i think that is what they were trying to do. did they do it correctly? no. were they perhapses a bit overzealous? sure. >> abou

just send it in to kgb headquarters. >> it means everyone on the stage are a bit soft. >> don't they think somebody will want to search the cat for a fire? for a wire. come out of that vittles. >> that's what they eat. >> tender vittles. >> we have those in george journal. >> cats have great lives, but with great lives come great responsibility. isn't it time they pay back america for living off us? >> can i yield my time to bill for the uh blib tore reference to the bond girl in this. >> i didn't even think of that. even though that's her name and it is on tbs, i feel uncomfortable saying her name in that james bond movie. >> patrick, so you don't want to respond to this? >> no, unfor the fatly don't you think somebody in the cia in the 60s saw the bond movie where the -- where they are painting the cat? that's what we are going to do now. >> exactly. that's how it happened. animals don't do enough for us. if we don't eat you, you should help us. >> i agree. what other purpose does a cat serve? what do they do? half the time they won't let you pet them, so therefore they could have

>> having the irs enforce obama care is like having the kgb enforce elections. not a good idea. >> they were heavy handed in what they did here. i've had some experience about them being heavy handed. i'm going to talk about that. now the irs has admitted, admitted to being partisan in how they administered for profit or not for profit tax treatment, has admitted to being partisan. it's now instructed with administering obama care where they make decisions on how much health care a company is going to need, which could put a company out of business, what the fines are going to be, poe tegs of your medical records and who knows where they're going to go. he also talked about turning over proprietary information. >> maybe this is going to fail. this is going to be the undoing. >> you're not going to repeal obama care, but the question is it's always been at the heart of the controversy here is having to paille fine. the supreme court made their decision based on that as a tax issue, the fine. that's the reason robert proudly voted for obama care. the question is t

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the russian story goes, someone named ryan fogle, who is the embassy's third secretary but whom the kgb operative was detained last night as he was trying to allegedly recruit a member of the russian special services. they found apparently, according to the russians large sups of cash and envelopes on him. instructions on how to recruit a spy. some technical apparatus and some disguises in the form of wigs. now again, there has been no comment from the u.s. embassy on this. the russians have said that they have released ryan fogle back into the custody of the u.s. embassy but again, we are waiting for word, possibly now from washington on exactly what happened, gregg? gregg: what do you think this means for u.s.-russian relations, amy? >> reporter: well, gregg, it is no secret they have been very tense. in fact the fsb put out a statement saying there had been repeated attempts on the part of american diplomats in moscow to recruit other russian operatives. the secretary of state john kerry and the head of the fbi were in moscow last week and apparently took some steps towards repairing

this guy is about show and really wants to bring back this image of russia and the kgb and the forerune guises -- the guys that found this guy. and he wants to maintain the image of him as tough, and i think that the way they this obviously, in the spy game normally if you uncover a spy, you track them, exploit further information from them, as opposed to making this kind of a public speck tick cal -- spectacle out of it. >> lest you thought everything is awful, it's not. oj is next. you make a great team. it's been that way since e day you met. but your erectile dysfunction - itld be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you cabe more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sexual activity. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as this may cause unsafe drop in blo

the irs is the most feared agency in the world next to maybe the kgb.he people tasked with enforcing making sure that everyone has health insurance? it is a disaster. this woman got $103,000 in bow nesss. taxpayer funded money. was basically promoted and oversaw the targeting of conservative and religious groups and she is getting a promotion. you are telling me that no one know hass is going on here. >> mike: steven miller salt there with a straight face and said the reason this happened is they were just trying to be so efficient. >> hilarious. let's not forget, steven miller was fired. he is is gone. now, i underand it obama did not -- obama did not take him out to the middle of times square and flog him like people might want. i think this is a fair point when you apply for tax exempt status does that make you immediately above the law? can we not ask a question as to whether or not your application is, correct? i think that is what they were trying to do. did they do it correctly? no. were they perhapses a bit overzealous? sure. >> about you do we

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other bulgarian officials and soviet kgb officials were implicated, but no individual has ever been chargedox yumt ri, he talked about government plots against him and defecting from bulgaria. >> i don't want to say that i'm, how you say, braver or more honest than other people. perhaps if i were more honest, i should have been there because then fight the battle there, not be here. >> markov was 49 when he died, a victim of ricin and the cold war. gary tuchman, cnn atlanta. >>> we're doing a quick check of the markets right here. right now the dow is down four points. looks like it may well end up being a great month for investors however. and we are looking at we hope the dow expected to finish the month at least this is 3% higher than where it started. >>> and this is a trick question kind of sort of. can you spell knaidel? 13-year-old nailed it at the national spelling bee. new champion, he's going to join us up live next. we're at the exclusive el chorro lodge in paradise valley, arizona where, tonight, we switched their steaks with walmart's choice premium steak. it's a steakover! thi

think we had a couple spectacular successes like recruiting the head of the british department of the kgbt of times they are spying on us and they have continued to have huge victories even after the cold war including running the top guy dealing with russian and the fbi and a top guy dealing with russia and the fbi. i'm not sure we've gotten to the bottom of why they're so much about thor at it than we are. >> matthew dunn, edward lucas, thank you for joining us. up next, big data or big brother. how information about you is changing the way the world works. computer information systems, networking and communications management -- the things that our students need to know in the world today. our country needs more college grads to help fill all the open technology jobs. to help meet that need, here at devry university, we're offering $4 million dollars in tech scholarships for qualified new students. learn more at devry.edu. her long day of pick ups and drop offs begins with arthritis pain... and a choice. take up to 6 tylenol in a day or just 2 aleve for all day relief. all aboard. ♪ as

these outrageous questions, with these outrageous form about family members, about associations, well kgb type stuff, and we flipped out. and we had to make a decision as lawyers. are we going to represent the individual tea party groups and fight with seven revenue service or going to go to the top to the treasurery department, the inspector general for the tax administration -- and i'm an old justice department guy -- we said it's not good enough to represent individual groups. weed in to investigate the internal revenue service. that's what led to us send our complaints to the treasurery department, which, by the way, did a good job. i have to say the law enforcement wing of the treasurery department. certainly it's not a couple of treasurery agents in cincinnati who came up with this. this affected several states, scores of organizations, and we now now because they're leaking like a seive on the hill, this went up to senior officials in the irs and they're in full coverup mode at the irs. >> neil: now, when they harassed these organizations, tea party or other conservative organizati

it almost looks like this a kgb, they call it the fsb, plant, to embarrass the united states. but for me, that tells a bigger story, relations between russian intelligence and the united states are very bad. that's the only reason they would make this so public, put the pictures out so quickly, and attempt to embarrass the united states. i think this is a really unfortunate turn in relationships. >> there are certainly cia officers and undercover ones working in embassies but aren't they usually actually declared to the host country? >> no, not necessarily. you know, the cold war has never been quite over, you know. as we know the russians spy on the united states, we spy on russia. it's just always been there. but it's the trade craft that bothers me. this just doesn't look like a cia operation to me or the whole thing was staged by the fsb simply to embarrass. there's something terribly wrong with this story and the fact that we're only getting out of russia makes me, you know, doubtful of the facts. >> what about the fact that he was supposedly carrying $100,000 for a meeti

. >> reporter: in the most famous case, a kgb agent operating in london in 1978 killed a soviet defectorcontinues to try to find a way to use ricin in terror attacks. but for all of that no one in the u.s. has ever died or been seriously harmed from ricin mailed in letters mostly because the poison, homemade from castor beans, and online recipes has been poorly produced. u.s. authorities tell abc news they believe all of this was the work of an amateur because a new test showed the level of toxicity in the ricin was extremely low and probably never presented any health risk to anybody. brian ross, abc news, new york. >> so ricin easy to make but not easy to make effectively. thank goodness. they say a pinpoint of this if it is done right can kill a person within 36 to 48 hours. respiratory and liver starts to shut down. >> right. and you know -- it wasn't weaponized what you are saying. the second person, sent to the president, sent to the new york mayor michael bloomberg. both of them have letter openers and sifting devices. the letter got nowhere near them. there was a gentleman in was

this is the modern version of the kgb. you meet an american, look them up on facebook and he's not there or there's pictures of his dog instead of a profile picture. this is suspicious. we don't think this is how the russian security service caught ryan foghle. "the wall street journal" points out this morning his facebook page is practically bare. russia says foghle will be kicked out of the country. the newspaper has an interesting article this morning about what a really big problem facebook is for spies. hundreds of people, thousands of people know who you are. you went to college with these people. you can't use your real name because you're a spy. you can't link to your friends because that would endanger them, but you can't not be on facebook because that is a sure sign you are a spy. >>> speaking of facebook, it's been 364 days since this. facebook ipoed on may 18th, 2012. the one year anniversary will be tomorrow, saturday. this is the big celebration. counting down to a rocket that never launched because while no

the kgb paid him for documents. robert hansen, was an fbi counterintelligence agent arrested in 2001 for selling highly classified documents to russia. i mean this is spy versus spy stuff. and the implication that somehow james rosen is on par with these you know, operatives i think is shocking to most people watching this. >> well the context here is that this administration has brought more leak prosecutions than any in history. using the espionage act. six times. to bring criminal prosecutions. and they've been very clear and they were very clear throughout the first term, that they intended to be quite vigorous and aggressive on this. and they had no apologies for it. in part it was democrat, democratic political appointees who wanted to show they were tough on national security leaks. wanted to show members of congress they were going to aggressively pursue these. and it was in that mindset that we're going to be tough on national security leaks, that you got the subpoena for the a.p. phone records and the, the

remember, putin, former kgb officer, is president of the country. are tensions in the relationship over a whole host of things. so if they did get somebody involved in espionage, they may want to deter, you know, further espionage as well as russians from participating in espionage. there may be some theater involved here. >> the other part that seems like theater because it just can't be that a cia official would be this stupid is that some russian outlets like "russia today" are reporting on the english translation of a letter they obtained from mr. fogle including telling a potential double agent to go to an internet cafe, create a g-mail account, don't use your personal information. and it's written down. it seems like this is the kind of thing, this kind of letter would never be written. what's your take as a former cia officer? >> i agree. if it's true it is certainly not our best moment if this is a true case. right? you wouldn't want that on your agent. you would not be caught with that in your pocket even if the police stopped you and they

that the congressman was today shown detailed intelligence by the russian fsb, the successor to the kgb. details, names, cell phone numbers, addresses, social media information, intelligence indicating tsarnaev originally planned to get involved with palestinian insurgents but that fell through because he had trouble learning arabic. keating first told this to "the boston globe." the fbi and cia did not today respond to cnn's request for comment. you may recall congressman keating told us that one of his staffers traveled to russia after the bombing and learned that tsarnaev while in the caucuses in 2012 made contact with two insurgents there, william plotkinov and mahmoud nidal. it was 46 days ago and there remains so much we still do not know. >> this new footage shows the now infamous tsarnaev brothers tamerlan and dzhokhar, focusing on fitness just 72 hours before they gained america's attention with these devastating explosions. we vils ited their gym just after the bombings. this is the y crew mixed martial arts gymnasium here in massachusetts where tamerlan tsarnaev would work ou

other bulgarian communist officials and soviet kgb officials were implicated but no individual has ever been charged with the murder. in the documentary, markov talked about government plots against him and defected from bulgaria. >> i don't want to say that i am braver or more honest than other people. perhaps if i were more honest, i should have been there, because if you're honest you should stay there, fight the battle there, not be here. >> reporter: markov was 49 when he died, a victim of ricin and the cold war. gary tuchman, cnn, atlanta. >> such an incredible story. you can follow me on twitter tonight. we'll try to tweet throughout this hour. >>> up next, a key piece of evidence presented in court. videotape that could prove the innocence of an arizona mother who has been jailed in mexico accused of smuggling drugs. rafael romo was in court and will tell us what he saw on that video, why it may clear her. we'll also have more of his exclusive jailhouse video with her. >> i'm not a criminal. i'm just scared. people are assuming the worst. it's not right. i need to be back with m

. >> before i committed crime -- my specialty was intelligence services, the kgb and the cia, and i found that the cia continually tried to create an aura that it was omniscient, it could prove things and knew things. you looked at each case, and one of the main case is looked at was a defector who testified about oswald. never did testify but came over to testify and got thrown in jail, and that case has gone on almost as long as the kennedy assassination. when the cold war ended, i then began to think, well, not only crimes but there are mysteries going back to jack the ripper, some of them are products of basically journalism creating composite characters or creating circulation. some of them are prosecutors that say -- remain determined not to be embarrassed. in amanda knox, the prosecutors are now appealing the -- her acquittal, not because they are sure she is guilty, but because they don't want to be made fools of. so the tendency -- >> but the desire not to be made a fool of can convince you that you have done the right thing, that you know what really happened. >> i think people

there is a blog out there saying the blond wig he was shown with may have come from a kgb museum, and that it was from an arrest of another american back in the 1980s. i mean it's a terrible wig. arthel: it's an awful wig. >> that is a possibility. it's not quite clear. like i said, i think they tried to make this cia look like buffoons here, and it's unfortunate. arthel: it is unfortunate. hey, look so russia, they are like knock it off, but isn't it the pot calling the kettle black, remember anna chapman got busted a couple of years ago, she was that sex see russian spy. >> right, exactly. the russians are here in the united states especially in the washington area at cold war levels. we had anna chapman a few years ago. don't forget aldridge aims at the cia, robert hanson at the fbi. spying happens and so does counter spying. but the important thing here is is that we may be very concerned about we are not getting the straight information we need on what is going on in place is like president caucuses, with dagezstan. the russians may not be telling us what we need to know for our

said the tactic of planteding material on a spy is a trademark of vladimir putin, himself a former kgber disguise training than what was displayed in moscow. they said to depart only slightly from your own look. maybe a ball cap on backwards and sunglasses. o'neill said if the russians really believed foegel was recruiting a double agent, rounding up fogel was a mistake. >> they want to pick up the person he's recruiting. he's irrelevant. actually, it's better for them to keep him in place because they know that he is potentially a spy and they can watch him in order to catch the russian. >> o'neill said all the russians have done by detaining this man who they call fogel is ruin his career. the russians have deemed him to have to return to the u.s. it's unlikely he'll ever be able to work undercover again, even in another country. o'neill said different security agencies are all now going to know what his face looks like. >> there supposedly was a very strange letter that the russians released that fogel apparently it. >> another part of the russians' display there in moscow, written

is that it is not as if the fsb, the russian service, and, remember, putin is an old school former kgbot as if they just stumbled across this young man in moscow, overnight, and now they raised it. they had this in their pocket waiting to use this for a period of time, when to play the card. they decided now is a good time to play it. >> while they're playing the card, we know they detained this guy, ordered him out of russia. why not arrest him? >> well, because there is a traditional game that goes on between, you know, us and others out there in this area. it tends to be a tit for tat. and in this case, and, you know, bear with me on this one, i think the timing of this is fascinating. coming on the heels of the boston bombing, remember, we all said, the russians, they were trying to help us, gave us a name, they gave us a date of birth of tamerlan tsarnaev, they were trying to cooperate and the white house after the boston bombings talking about the new cooperation. in reality, the russians had a massive file on tamerlan. it is not as if they weren't surveilling him the whole time