officer was stuck ina the young kgb officer was stuck in a dead—end job.easy smuggling new technology into the soviet union in defiance of western sanctions, according to catherine belton, he spent two decades investigating their activities. the kgb and the stasi had to cook up all these front companies and fake contracts so they could sidestep the western embargo and get these assets and technology across the wall. many years later, these were skills that would prove useful but in the meantime, the communist bloc was crumbling — crumbling and parts of the kgb we re crumbling and parts of the kgb were actively preparing for the colla pse were actively preparing for the collapse of the soviet union. they were preparing the move to the market but they also realised they needed to start shifting assets, so they could preserve their intelligence networks even after a collapse of the communist regime. when boris —— boris yeltsin thought of the attack of hardliners, it look like an attack had been broken but even after the collapse of the soviet union, russians

what i would argue is that he is a set of classic kgb adventurous and opportunist. well and he tries to have, sometimes it doesn't, the problems that his two most successful operations, i would say, took place in 2016 and they're both related. one was the push by spy agencies to sort of sweep the operations help donald trump when the white house. the other was to actually launch a set of comparable pretty multifaceted operations to support the league campaign in the 2016 u.s. random and to some degree the scottish independence referendum as well. so it's very hard to say. i wouldn't argue that putin called for these results. there were numerous other factors. the point is we have a very narrowly contested result. a sort of 50/50 scenario and you have a trial operation by social media sitting in st. petersburg. you have sort of russian intelligence offices based in london running around with senior figures in the lead campaign. you also have the unanswered question of financing. all sides denied wrongdoing but the genuine question raised by mps, but mps and others ab

or in london or in berlin or were ever hear that what i would argue is that he is a set of classic kgbadventurist opportunist. and he tries to have come sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, the problem is his two most successful operations i would say took place in 2016 and they were both related. one was that push by russian spy agencies to assist medicus with the operations to help donald trump when the white house, and the other was to launch a comparable multifaceted operation to support the leave campaign in in the 2016 eu referendum and disintegrate the scottish independence referendum as well. it's very hard to say, i wouldn't argue that putin called for these results. there were numerous other factors but the point is we have a very narrowly contested result. instead of 50-50 scenario, you have a troll operation by social media botts city in st. petersburg. you have sort of russian intelligence offices based in london running around with senior figures in the leave campaign. you also have the unanswered question of financing. all sides denied wrongdoing but the question ra

but what i would argue is that he is a sort of classic kgb adventurest and opportunist, and he tries it out. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. the problem is that his two most successful operations, i would say, both took place in 2016. they were both related. one was the push by russian spy agencies to sort of systematic sweeping operation to help donald trump win the white house, and the other was to actually launch a set of comparable pretty multifaceted operations to support the leave campaign in the 2016 eu referendum and some degree, the scottish independence referendum as well. it's hard to say. i wouldn't argue that putin caused these results. there were numerous other factors, but the point is, we have a very narrowly contested result, a sort of 50/50 scenario and a troll operation by social media bots sitting in st. petersburg. you have a sort of russian intelligence officers based in london running around, leazing with senior figures of the leave campaign, and also the unanswered question of financing. all sides deny wrongdoing, but there's a genuine question raise

and saw kgb, kgb, kgb. putin believes that the glory of the former soviet state must be restored. he believes all of the iron curtain brought with it and your area of weakness from russia.and he's determined to return russia to the status of a global superpower. and the key to that strategy is to undermine the united states. and to weaken our country and we can our foreign policy. what putin has his own problems. russian population is aging. it's drinking. the economy of russia is struggling. there's a mix of an overburdened socialist state with a very core of oligarchs who have literally stolen billions of dollars from the russian people. i have serious social and economicissues . no democracy would tolerate the kind of mismanagement and corruption that we've seen their area that's why putin is done away with any semblance of democracy. he was real constitutional referendums as we know recently allows him to be a virtual dictator. through 2036. russia's strategy to restoring superpower status is on the following elements. first, we clearly want to undermine nato and its emissions

it's great that the ex-kgb men are many things and a taken over national wealth.sometimes there's a sort of superficial depiction that that's what the debate is,, people who sort of get putin in a eyed and the kgb in his eyes and so forth by people who are naÏve. in fact, most people the great it's not a great thing for russia, not a great thing for the united states that putin behaves the way he behaves and the kgb yes, sir taken over so much of russia. the principal debate is about what do we do going forward? to be essentially write off working with that government, dealing with that government? because you cannot trust these people, you morally should not empower them i have any sort of commerce broadly speaking with them, or do we have to find a way forward and what are you suggesting, tell me if i understand this correctly, is that there are some pathways by which russia can adjust its behavior to act more like the great power that it wants to be, and then we can deal with them, great power to great power? >> i think that's absolutely right. the whole quest

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, kgb. putin believes that the glory of the former soviet state must be restored. he believes the fall of the iron curtain brought with it an era of weakness in russia. and he is determined to return russia to the status of a global superpower. and to that strategy is to undermine the united states, and to weaken our country and weaken our foreign policy. look, putin has his own problems. russian population is aging. it's shrinking. by the economy, rush is struggling. there's a mix of an overburdened socialist state with a very core of oligarchs of literally stolen aliens of dollars from the russian people. they have serious social and economic issues. no democracy would tolerate the mismanagement and corruption we've seen it there, and that's why putin has done away with any semblance of democracy. he is pushed through constitutional referendums as we know just recently that allows him to be a virtual dictator through 2036. russia's strategy to restoring its superpower status is dependent o

and i spoke to jack barsky, a former kgb agent, who spied undercover here in the u.s. say. >> in those days, it was pretty hard to disseminate that kind of information. it took a lot of work, and you really had to focus on, who do you want to do damage to with the resources that you had? >> nowadays, it's so much easier. social media makes that possible. >> reporter: social media makes it possible. and that just really underlines the challenge and the importance here that silicon valley has ahead of november's election to get this right. and remember, this is not just open to russia now. this is open to anybody. this playbook, social media makes it possible for anyone to run these sorts of campaigns. alisyn? >> social media doing the kgb's job for them. that's incredible. donie, thank you very much. everybody should go read your article. >>> 17 million people around the world infected by coronavirus. brazil and mexico setting single-day records for new cases and deaths. we bring you the latest from around the globe, next. at visionworks, we know there's lots of things

now the former kgb officer solidifying his hold on power could lead russia until 2036, his spokesman this week unapologetic. >> are we really saying there's only one man capable of leading the country. >> every time we have presidential elections, every time people vote for putin. >> putin, who openly supports president trump and clashed with president obama, has dominated russian politics since president clinton's era. but putin's apparent friendship with president trump causing controversy. putin was also russia's strong man. his nationalism and cynicism unlikely to change now. joking to me late last year over election the 2020 elections in the united states? >> i'll tell you a secret, yes, we will intervene. >> reporter: president putin said he would never stay in power so long. a lie, warning the world to expect more deception. >> he's become rich, taken crimea from ukraine and accused of assassinations. there's no question president putin is popular in russia but many will question the percentages in this vote because his polling is lower than it has been during his leadership.

the general, the head of the precursor to the kgb of the secret intelligence service. mike assumes the gentleman is there just one stalin has arrived at the russian embassy, but he takes one look at and realizes something is very wro wrong. [inaudible] commanders fell down out of the sky on a mission to kill the big three and mike, his heart stops and the first thing they can say as he asks a silly question are you sure there were 38 and he says yes we caught them all and interrogated them quite thoroughly. mike has a vision in his mind what it must have been like to be interrogated quite thoroughly but this is wartime and his responsibility is to protect the loss. then the general sense there is something else. these men we interrogated six commanders came in on a separate plane. they are in the city and they have a mission to kill fdr, churchill and stalin. his blood ran cold. the next four days of the conference, it is a cat and mouse game between mike overcoming his animosity trying to get the six commanders, well trained, well armed in a city of 1 million people t

this is a woman who has spent her professional life studying former kgb putin, fiona hill. >> the u.s. is bogged down. less likely for the u.s. to try to restore a leadership role. >> so jeremy, what might this mean for what's going to be our second straight susceptible russian interference. >> evethere is no great earter s interview where he has not raised the issue with putin. the president failed to rebouk t the russian leader but acquiesced. he says it didn't come to his desk, but that's a flat out lie. it came to his desk. his aides did discuss it with him. he has done precisely nothing to push back on russia and protect those men and women that he himself sent into harm's way to defend our freedom. >> jeremy, while i have you explain to the good people, why it will make putin happy if the u.s. withdraws 12,000 troops from germany. >> germany is a nato ally, and putin wants to disintegrate the nato alliance, between the united states and germany. germany is where the iron curtain was lifted after the reunification. so it's significant when we order 12,000 troops out of germany. p

he is a kgb operative in the kremlin and when we have to deal with for decades to come. jillian: thank you for that inside information, appreciate it. 19 after the hour, a powerful message as the father of the teen killed in seattle's chop zone calls for a end to the violence. >> i want the world to know that was my son, we got a put stamp on this and say these are children, remember, these are children of god. >> this plea comes as the occupy zone is cleared out but is it too little too late to cure next guest says it is just a matter of time until politicians gave to the mob again. it's pretty inspiring the way families redefined the word 'school' this year. it's why, at xfinity, we're committed to helping kids keep learning through the summer. and help college students studying at home stay connected through our university program. we're providing affordable internet access to low income families through our internet essentials program. and this summer, xfinity is creating a virtual summer camp for kids at home- all on xfinity x1. we're committed to helping all famili

this is a woman who has spent her professional life studying former kgb vladimir putin. here is fiona hill today. >> he wants to have a new one. the u.s. is bogged down in its own internal contradictions and the weaker the president is domestically but perceived internationally, the less it is for the u.s. to restore a leadership role. >> so, jeremy bash, what might this mean for what's going to be our second straight susceptible russia interference to the presidential election? >> well, brian, every hour that the president spends being commander in chief in a cull real war, he's advocating his constitutional responsibility to be commander in chief for the nationality skoufrt the united states. there was no greater example, i think, than this interview with axios that the president has not raised the issue of vladimir putin and putin's potential payments to the taliban to target u.s. forces. so the president not only failed to rebuke the russian leader but acquiesced to it. he's allowing it. he dismissed the credible reports that came to his desk. he says they didn't com

probably, especially the unit that was responsible. , the modern-day version of the kgb, has been responsible just these kinds of working onave been targeted assassinations around the world. we ought to take action against that organization. i had some rather radical suggestions. as a practical matter, you have dealt with these issues for many years. r.o.e. inadvertently -- are we inadvertently encouraging getting putin by not more involved? mark: this notion that we have not been involved is a bit of a stretch. we have not been as strong as we should. bedidly, the president may more soft than he is with other leaders, but i'm often reminded of an airplane running out of gas. that is vladimir putin and the soviet union. sooner or later, it will fall out of the sky. he cannot sustain this level of activity, whether it is military , intelligence activity, he just cannot maintain this over time. but we should be working hard to accelerate the demise of the putin regime so we can get back to normalized relationships with a post-putin russia. david: two-putted pointedly, does pulling our troops ou

this is a woman who has spent her professional life studying former kgb putin, fiona hill. >> he wants to have a weaker u.s. president. it doesn't matter who. he'll be lucky to see if that's the case. the more the u.s. is bogged down in internal contradictions the weaker the president is domestically and internationally. less likely for the u.s. to try to restore a leadership role. >> so jeremy, what might this mean for what's going to be our second straight susceptible russian interference. presidential election. >> ever hour the president spends being commander in chief in a culture war. >> there is no greater than this interview where he has not raised the issue with putin. of the potential payments to taliban to target u.s. forces. the president failed to rebouk the russian leader but acquiesced. he is allowing it and dismissing the credible reports the intelligence that did land on his desk. he says it didn't come to his desk, but that's a flat out lie. it came to his desk. in a written presidential daily briefing. he claimed he didn't read that. his aides did discuss it with him.

so pandering to an ex-kgb officer in russia is utterly disgraceful. >> unlike donald trump who you on this show called a physical coward, your family has a long tradition of military service. what does it mean to you personally to see the names of confederate generals stripped off of military facilities >> well, i'm glad that you brought up that history. you know, when my great-great grandfather, you know, green nance, and his brother ran away from slavery in tennessee and went to alabama, the first thing they did was join the union army in the 111th u.s. color troops just imagine that. going from slavery to wanting to fight for the american ideal and in this country, where we have this president who himself does not appear to believe not only in the ideals of the nation, the honor of the nation. he is a physical coward. he has run away from the defense of this nation, not only when he was a play boy business man who failed at everything, but when he became president of the united states, to actually sit in the seat behind the table that other great presidents like roosevelt, lincoln

you hear this, i will never forget this interview i think it was in 1984 the next kgb agent talk about the soviet propaganda machine and it's like 85% of their operation intelligence operations efforts. they were surprised at how easy phase i which is basically means hate your country hate your institution. this is not new it's happening this is old marxist strategies been going on for a long time. bubbles up kind of naturally in the human psyche. marxism is a very romantic idea. we should never think we will escape it. we always have to educate our kids on the dangers of it. it's very natural to feel that way, the tri- ballistic us versus them. it's actually deeply embedded in human nature parts we constantly have to confronted with better western enlightenment values. we did not do a good job of that of the last few decades. >> aren't last question because her running out of time. if there were one book that you could recommend. the congressman has a new book out. but if there were one book you could recommend for people in a time that's essential leading on this topic what would it

trump, you are either a coward who cannot stand up to an x kgb goon, or you are complicit. --ake the left, done-owning gun-owning veteran. i see trump for what he is, a coward. we need to send this coward back to -- this draft dodger back to his golf courses. adt: your reaction to that in the larger issue of this effort by the lincoln project. guest: it strikes me as a demagogue word salad. strains belief to think that president joe biden would be asymmetrically engaging russia in warfare over this when, in fact, that is not what large nationstates do. did duringhat obama the obama administration, or as he likes to say during the obama-biden administration. it is another attempt to throw mud at the wall and see what sticks. i think the lincoln project is not very effective. i think there are no serious republicans, people who are still republicans that would be moved by ads like this. what it is doing, mainly, is providing air cover in the media for joe biden, but it is not going to have any effect on the ground, which is to say if you are basically a pro-life conservative

we cannot lose sight of the fact that russia's primary goal and agent, isa former kgb to undermine thed states of america, we can our institutions. yet, not having the president address these issues, whether it is what they are trying to do to interfere in our elections, the idea that they would be reviving bounties on men and women in , or whetherinfield it is now the president deciding to withdraw troops from the nato region, all of that is a gift to putin. the message to putin is that the united states is weak. that concerns me because it is basically saying to putin, take advantage of this situation. that is why they went into the crimea, election interference in this country, because they don't feel like .nyone will che k them the problem right now is the failure of this president to be strong in dealing with putin and letting him know where the lines are. kevin: i wish we had more time. our thanks to leon panetta. for bloomberg first word news, we go to mark crumpton. mark: new york city mayor bill de blasio says the largest school system remains on track for in person learning t

of course russia can do much better than a corrupt, crooked, former kgb agent. 150 millionth people, with great centuries-old culture, it is insulting to suggest we cannot find anybody better than this. dan, if you're listening to this, i thank you for raising this point. >> could i add one thing? well. this argument the fascists are going to take over. he's bad, but not as bad as the fascists, that argument. by the way, i heard this argument many times when i was ambassador to russia from people who work for vladimir putin, to remind me the communists are coming. remember, putin is a transitional figure. you got to give him a break. an argument i heard from very senior people in the government, and i would just say two things about that -- one is the political orientation of people that are opposed to putin, and they are not just liberals versus the state. there's a lot of social democratic minded folks, a lot of people in opposition of putin today that look like other social movements, including in my country. this whole thing about you've got to be a liberal and support liberal re

former kgb agent. a country with 140 million people come a country with great centuries-old european culture, it's offensive to suggest that we cannot find anybody better than this. if dan is listening, i thank you for raising this point. >> could i had one thing to that? i know this argument well. over,scists will take he's in bad but not as bad as the fascists. i've heard this argument many times when i was ambassador to russia from people who worked with president putin. they said the communist are coming and remember putin is a transitional figure so give him a break. i heard this from various senior people in the government. i would say two things about that, one is that the political orientation of people who are opposed to putin are changing. they are not just liberals versus the state. there is a lot of social democratic minded folks. there is a lot of people in opposition to putin today who look like other social movements including in my country. this old thing about king a liberal and suppor

ever since he was a kgb agent n and watched the berlin wall fall, he was concerned about this alliance between america and germany. the whole world car was a microcosm of what happened in east and west berlin. russia doesn't feel safe when there is a union between america and germany because they always feel threatened by germany. this has been a goal of the russians for 500 years and vladimir putin has pulled it off because he has a lackey in the american president. >> wendy sherman and rick stengle, thank you both for joining our discussion tonight. thank you. >> thank you. >>> and when we come back, together for the first time, joy reid and mary trump. that happened earlier tonight at 7:00 p.m. on joy reid's show when she interviewed donald trump's niece mary trump who explained donald trump's strange and enduring attraction to vladimir putin. we'll show you some of that interview next. and joy reid will join us. sure. okay... okay! safe drivers save 40%!!! guys! guys! check it out. safe drivers save 40%!!! safe drivers save 40%! safe drivers save 40%!!! that's safe drivers save 40%

tied to russiacivilian intelgence agency that was sort of the precursor to the -- successor to the kgble concerned about this particular attempted hacked because the reality is every country in the world right now, probably tasked wiingency is information on vaccine developments and i would certainly hope that the u.s. intelligenceommunity is doing the same thing. it is in the interest of every country a to develoaccine and solve this crisis is ugly as possible. inousands of people are every day. of all the things to be concerned about andhe russians are doing nefarious things, this isng ranery low on my list of concerns. william: all right, thank you both very ch for being here. ♪ amna: now, the second of a two-part race matters report on how past and present inequality is have sapped the wealt and health of black americans. last night, paul focused on economic matte. tonight, he looks at health imtcomes magnified in the of covid. his route as part of our ongoing economic series. paul: whin 48 hours, desmond told bert lost mother and father to covid-19. back in april, black rural geor

trump, you're either a coward who can't stand up to an ex-kgb gun or you're complicit. which is it?mander in chief. i'm a pro-life, gun-owning con b -- combat veteran and i see tr see trump for what he is, a coward. >> some people are saying it the exact opposite of when they go low, we go high. >> when michelle obama uttered that very famous phrase at the 2016 convention, it made for fantastic oratory and it's a wonderful sentiment. in an ideal world, that would win the day. he's used his administration to advance a corrupt agenda, the firing of inspector generals, pardoning of roger stone, russia putting a bounty on american soldiers. it's a five-alarm fire and there's so much going on it's impossible to focus on one thing. the lincoln project, when they do an ad, when we put out a spot, it allows us to drive a conversation and gives biden's campaign the ability to do what they need to do. i think back also to the spot that went on about trump walking down the ramp and drinking water and trump obsessed about it, he spent a big part of his tulsa speech reenacting it bizarrely. that

this reminds me of the time in the '80s when the kgb did an ad for hertz.rump is threatening to send his secret police to other cities and the rotten husks in the gop and on fox news are cheering him on the president can't be bothered to develop a national strategy for a pandemic that's killed 140,000 americans. but to defend some statues, he'll send secret police to american cities to abduct protesters he and his right-wing allies couldn't care less about you they just want power if we leave these people in charge of our democracy any longer - >> it will disappear >> seth: this has been "a closer look." ♪ >> seth: so many new yorkers are turning to city harvest for help feeding their families, and they need your support more than ever there's a website below to donate we'll be right back with amy sedaris. ♪ here we are >> announcer: for more of seth's "closer looks," be sure to subscribe to "late night" on youtube. so we gave the world another look. and saw a future of differences celebrated. every voice heard and advocated. where everyone can show their p

and it is that combination of the influence peddling combined with some old fashion kgb active measuresd blackmail and all that that it failed to grip. so if that is a failure is a failure of the intelligence agencies or their political masters who in the end who give them orders and directions?|j think give them orders and directions?” think it is a collective failure in whitehall. the security establishment as i think, as frank was saying, they need to stand up more and if they see things that are wrong in this country, mi5 or mi6 need to have a channel by which they say so. because it is almost too much of a reluctance to say nothing for fear of intervening. and actually the price for that could be worse if you let bad people profit. i think worse if you let bad people profit. ithink in worse if you let bad people profit. i think in whitehall there has been a failure and a complacency. i was argument two whitehall folks were nicer than that we need a national strategy council to look forward to problems as well as a national security council and i get the same or vaguely condescendin

matt: a lot of analysts say he was not strikingly smart in his time in the kgb, but you cannot debateas been in terms of grabbing and holding power here. why do you think that is? he is a very innovative man. even though we in the west do not like him, many of us detest him, but the reality is he is when hehe initiative sees crimea and when russia began that action, that came as a surprise to us. he did something completely different, to engage in syria. he keeps taking initiative and we keep on the back foot. the only thing he has a limited by is the power of his own imagination. that in mind, what role should we expect russia to play in the forthcoming u.s. elections? there has been a lot of concern they will repeat what they did in 2016, try to influence the outcome by meddling. that is old news now. repeat thes rarely same trick twice. social mediamember is better prepared for this. the russians might think of something different, for example, one area that is interesting is the social discontent in all kinds of areas. in europe we have seen a disturbing trend, people are setting

trump, you're either a coward who can't stand up to an ex-kgb goon or you're complicit. which is it? >> reporter: now, as for eric hendricks, the father of the late corporal robert hendricks, he says he does not vote but leans towards president trump and is hopeful there can be answers soon many republican lawmakers are rallying around the president stressing the intelligence was not verified experts say it's not unusual for officials to disagree on intelligence assessments as we've been on the air, the president tweeting moments ago calling this whole thing, quote, just another hoax. >> while i have you here, there are headlines from joe biden's briefing on tuesday. his first briefing in months he was asked if he was tested for cognitive decline. what happened there? >> reporter: that's right, craig. it was notable when joe biden was asked by a reporter about whether he has been tested as you say for cognitive decline. here's that headline making exchange take a look. >> have you been tested for some degree of cognitive decline? >> i've been tested. i'm constantly testi

trump, you're either a coward who can't stand up to an ex-kgb goon, or you're complicit.i'll be speaking with dr. dan barkoff about that bombshell "new york times" report published over a week ago. donald trump denies that he had any advanced knowledge of the alleged bounties. but as the ad for the lincoln project underscores, trump still hasn't told the american public or the world how this administration plans to punish russia. instead, he and the white house have reacted the way they normally do about these types of stories. from denying ever being told to calling it a hoax. here's a doozy from the white house press secretary. >> i would reask the question of whether it was in his material but asking maybe to defend why the president isn't necessarily reading it when there are these types of issues that arise. >> the president does read and also consumes intelligence verbally. this president, i'll tell you, is the most informed person on planet earth when it comes to the threats that we face. >> somehow a briefing of this magnitude got past the most informed person on

the kgb interfered throughout ourio russia interfered massively in the 2016 election and continued ton, as i showed in the book. there's no reason to believe that that story will end before the coming election as, you know, folks like robert mueller, chris wray and fiona hill have warned that russia is planning to interfere with the election as it did in the last cycle. >> mr. secretary, you said this book was the best you have read on this topic. why don't you take the next question to mr. shimmer. >> thank you, mika. >> david congratulations on a good book, i thought it was fair, balanced and captured the complexity of the subject. my question to you is, you've heard me say we have to divide the threat into separate bucket, the threat to our election infrastructure, the threat of hacking into campaigns and the threat of russia putting out extremist views and fake news to influence the minds of voters. which of those categories right now do you believe represents the most serious threat to our nation and democracy? >> i think both matter, but i think i'm increasingly worried about th

they pushed along an ex-kgb agent, vladimir putin.pushed along the propaganda that his government wanted pushed out, that the gru wanted pushed out. that people who consider the united states its enemy wanted pushed out. so, now we have still the republican party in 20 20 still reportedly following the wishes of vladimir putin and russia? i just -- i've got to say, who's talking, mika, about how we forget all of the things that happened? >> that's right. >> i think one of the most remarkable things that i have seen by the trump media has been the expression picked up by respected newspapers, "the russia hoax." oh, my god! what history will do. >> yeah. >> what history will say. about those who follow donald trump's propaganda and, "the russian hoax." three hours would not be enough time to talk about what donald trump and his campaign did during the 2016 election, that they lied about subsequently, and their interactions with russia, what he did in the early months of his campaign with the russian foreign minister and russia's ambassa

the continuing surprise here is that republican senate is more loyal to a man who is loyal to an ex-kgbthan they are loyal to keeping safe our men and women in uniform in afghanistan. i do hope, i so hope for our soldiers and sailors and marines and airmen -- >> and their families. >> the families, mothers, fathers, for their husbands and wives and children, i so hope that these senators find a moral compass soon and start speaking out aggressively and get to the bottom of this. ensure that commander in chief condemned putin and russia in the strict toughest terms possible. and if he doesn't do it, then to put even more sanctions on russia until the president is forced to do something. that's unbelievable. erin, i want to talk to you about an "l.a. times" article brought up earlier. we've been talking about how donald trump's been denying reality and coronavirus and how he's been out of step on an 80/20 issue. he keeps going with 20% of americans instead of 80% of americans that support the marches, that support this civil rights movement in 2020. and here is an example that he brought

conference, how obsequious donald trump is to vladimir putin once again choosing the word of an ex-kgbhis entire intel community. donald trump frantically doing everything he can do to not have to condemn the russians and vladimir putin for putting bounties on the heads of young american soldiers and sailors and airmen and marines. i think back to your oversight committee. you talk about the obsession they had on benghazi. where are all those republicans now that we have found out that vladimir putin is putting bounties on the heads of american sfloops where is marco rubio? has he condemned russia? has mitch mcconnell condemned russia? have republican leaders that are running those companies? ve they know it's legitimate. they've seen the intel. how incredible is this after seeing how fran tis republicans were over benghazi for years? >> reporter: you know, joe, i watched firsthand as the entire republican party spent the better part of five years investigating benghazi because they were outraged that four american diplomats had lost their lives in a terrorist attack in benghazi. i wat

keep your eyes off of what donald trump said in helsinki saying he trusted an ex-kgb agent more than american professionals in the intelligence community despite the fact that america's allies in europe reportedly last week said that they were fearful of giving the united states classified information because donald trump would pass it on to vladimir putin hell, he did it before, inside the white house. russia's ambassador of the united states and the foreign minister and also, despite the fact that -- and sv dante tweeted this yesterday trump used russian stolen information every day in the final months of the 2016 election even though the trump campaign knew it was from russia and knew it was stolen information. and no trump supporters have answered why not the white house, not the campaign, not a single trump supporter. why they did that over three years. no none there call it treason. i certainly would never do that. but i will tell you, that families of american troops fighting in afghanistan have known since friday, june the 26th, almost a month ago, that russ russia, that vlad

trump, you are either a coward who cannot stand up to an x kgb goon, or you are complicit.-ake the left, done-owning gun-owning veteran. i see trump for what he is, a coward. we need to send this coward back to -- this draft dodger back to his golf courses. adt: your reaction to that in the larger issue of this effort by the lincoln project. guest: it strikes me as a demagogue word salad. strains belief to think that president joe biden would be asymmetrically engaging russia in warfare over this when, in fact, that is not what large nationstates do. did duringhat obama the obama administration, or as he likes to say during the obama-biden administration. it is another attempt to throw mud at the wall and see what sticks. i think the lincoln project is not very effective. i think there are no serious republicans, people who are still republicans that would be moved by ads like this. what it is doing, mainly, is providing air cover in the media for joe biden, but it is not going to have any effect on the ground, which is to say if you are basically a pro-life conservative re

trump, you're either a coward who can't stand up to an ex-kgb goo or you're complicit. which is it?d trump is unfit to be our commander in chief and that's worse than useless. i'm a pro-life, gun-owning veteran and i can see trump for what he is, a coward. we need to send this draft dodger back to his golf courses. the lives of our troops depend on it. >> the lincoln project is responsible for the content of this advertising. >> all right. that new ad taking on president trump for his reported inaction after reports russia had offered bounties to encourage taliban-linked militants to kill american troops. joining us now, a member of the armed services committee, democratic senator tammy duckworth of illinois. she is a retired u.s. army lieutenant colonel who flew missions as a helicopter pilot in the iraq war. she is a recipient of the purple heart. it's very good to have you on the show. i'd like to start by asking you, senator, what questions do you still want answers to pertaining to the russian bounties, and what are you hoping to hear from the president? >> well, mika, what i w

again, no surprise there vladimir putin was a kgb officer and ran russia's ruthless internal security sfb. this is also a warning, you know, to russia that we can counter attack as we did allegedly in 2018 during the midterms when we launched our own cyber attack against russia's internet research agency and it's also public service announcement particularly to our scientific community to be on alert that russian intelligence is using this cozy bear. they have done it since way back in 2016 when they targeted the state department and the white house as well as as you point out the dnc during the elections. >> dan, i want to shift you from russia to china. we also had secretary pompeo with pretty strong words about china paying a price. here's what he said earlier this week. >> i think the world will make them pay a price. i'm confident that the world will look at china differently and engage them on fundamentally different terms than they did before this catastrophic disaster. griff: your thoughts? i think the united states clearly had already started to swivel our foreign policy into