it is still the kgb, and the guy in charge, he's a kgb neck.held captive, he never lost hope. >>> meantime, authorities in georgia are investigating the cause of a deadly tragedy over the weekend. a gangway at a ferry dock suddenly collapsing, sending people into the water and setting off a frantic rescue effort. nbc's priya sridhar has that. hey, priya, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, hoda. it was a disastrous scene here about an hour south of savannah. dozens of people fell into the water after a ferry gangway collapsed. seven people were killed. all of them senior citizens, ranging in age from 73 to 93. another eight were injured. authorities are saying this was a tragic ending to what should have been a joyous celebration. we want to warn you some of the images you're about to see you may find disturbing. this morning, new details on a catastrophic ferry gangway accident. >> i heard something pop, and i reached for the railing, and when i reached for the railing, the railing -- i saw the railing was gone. >> reporter: at least seve

in july, before departure from belarus, the kgb detains a japanese citizen, lawyer masatoshi on konise method is rigid fixation of the body so that he could not take, for example, hidden poison, as in the best traditions of detaining spies carried out by soviet security officers. the contents of the japanese laptop would have been very welcome in one special service. where did he intend to go upon arrival in tokyo? koka-koan and inkai. national public safety commission of japan. this structure manages the national police agency of the country. one of its divisions, the security bureau, is also engaged in counterintelligence and intelligence activities. in its system there is.

, it is better to have banners from the kgb forge than the destruction of the office. i am not sure whether ryutto has a plan for nato development, but i am 100% sure that ryutto has a plan. the new secretary general of the north atlantic alliance said that it would continue to put pressure on its allies to continue supporting ukraine, it has won faith as a sovereign, independent and democratic state, who is he going to attack, the baltics or luxembourg? they will soon burst from this pressure. ryti also called ukraine's right to strike with western weapons deep into russia legitimate. he stressed that each country of the alliance will make the decision to lift the restriction on strikes on russian territory itself. and rightly so, europe is so tiny, that in general it doesn't matter which country it hits, it will cover everyone anyway. in europe they understand that if russia wins in ukraine, if putin gets what he wants, our security will be in an even worse situation, he will get a quarter of his territory and a quarter of the population additionally. it is good that

in july, before leaving belarus, the kgb detains a japanese citizen, lawyer masatoshi, for a commission. the method is rigid fixation of the body so that he cannot take, for example, hidden poison, as in the best traditions of detaining spies carried out by soviet security officers. the contents of the japanese man's laptop would have been very welcome in one of the special services where he intended to go upon arrival in tokyo. koka-koan and inkai, the national public safety commission of japan. this structure manages the national police agency of the country. one of its divisions, the security bureau, is also engaged in counterintelligence and intelligence activities. its system includes the department of foreign affairs and intelligence, which specializes in international relations, technical investigations, including the yama intelligence service, which collects secret information based on interceptions of communication channels. however, first on kanishi, he would probably have met with mr. masonari sata, the ex-husband of his younger sister, but in reality by the curator of an inc

a trained interrogator, a former kgb operative? what is he getting number two what a missed intelligence opportunity for the united states if trump is having these conversations and not debriefing them, and number three, now that the story breaks as it inevitably does kaitlan the optics of this are terrible for our efforts in ukraine. here's our former president, allegedly having seven phone calls with arguably enemy number one or the united states. >> and i covered trump when he was in the white house. i remember he wanted to prosecute john kerry for conversations he had with iranian officials that he did brief then-secretary dario state, mike pompeo wants so just just to see this is what's really remarkable about this revolute is and recall the course trump's loose casual, carelessness with the highest levels of national security. he has multiple high level documents recovered from mar-a-lago so it's not as though he's someone who is protecting the classified information to the united states and he's in allegedly multiple convers

is he still the kgb agent? playing him is it reverse psychology to write >> then they've spoken to the seven times what we're reported so this is a fascinating story. >> this comes, woodward writes that a top trump aide told him that this his post-presidency so a top trump aide tells woodward that trump sends him out of the room and tells him he has to leave because he's about to have a phone call with the russian president and according to woodward's book, the topic aide said to woodward that there have been as many as seven calls between trump and putin since since he left the white house may look, it is true but jd vance said that former presidents do speak to other foreign leaders. but normally it it's not a secret or they give the white house or state department a heads-up a courtesy of what happens. >> that's a very, very good point. good reporting. jamie gangel. thank you sure. and joining me now is the former supreme allied commander of nato and retired four-star admiral james stavridis, who has a new b

in the same style, parusnikov together with the architect badanov erected an edition opposite the kgbarly shows the tendencies of english architecture, a characteristic tower, but with a clock. the building continued the theme set by the architects and organically fit into the overall ensemble. the minsk gate on the station square, a unique building main post office, the boldness of the goma building's solution, it is also not in the spirit of the times. unique in all soviet architecture. in all, in this regard the avenue is very interesting. restoration work continued. in forty-sixth , the general plan for the development of the center of minsk was finally approved. and if we are talking about the competition of forty-sixth year, then nine authors took part in it, including belgosproekt, a modern institute. of course, these are all author's projects important. was the design of not only this central avenue, but also the formation significant places, which became the central square, the victory square. there are many disputes about what to be a round square or october victory . it was

our president vladimir putin, we remember that along the line of the first main directorate of the kgb, he worked under the appropriate cover in the german democratic republic, so nostalgia, we have nostalgia for those times, and the east germans have nostalgia for their soviet... friends, not everyone, but they do, i can say that visiting several times the garrison where i spent my childhood, my father served in the group of soviet troops in germany, and talking with the germans, many remember the russian language, and they really say: come back, we are waiting for you, so, probably, some kind of, well, i don’t.

it could've been a great kgb agent because he knew which her weakness was and he tried to exploit it and he would dangle the bait and once he got you on the hook, he would dam and things in return and also tell you i am going -- i am going to out you if you do not do what i will say. ultimately, there were hundreds of navy officers who were involved, about 33 of them pleading guilty to crimes. others were given centers and other administrative careers were lost. careers were lost. admirals, captains, and i have been in the business for 20 years and i should not be surprised by it, but i was surprised at the extent of it and why nobody raised their hand earlier or more -- there were a few, but said no. i think part of the reason, i tried to think about what the reasons were, and i think they saw everyone else doing it as i felt entitled to it. they were risking their lives on behalf of their country. some of them felt, we are out in the pacific and they will not find out. some of them, they just wanted the benefits and it was shocking how widespread the scandal was. it is the worst co

that iran plays an important role here, because it sponsors terrorist organizations, it sponsors the kgb. what israel is doing is related to the iranian threat. we see turkish president recep tayyip erdogan speaking in parliament saying that turkey could be israel's next victim. when such words are heard, we see that the number of possible participants in this conflict increases, will it develop into a major war, and what do you think the opinion may be the opposing sides, how may the events look in the near future? erdogan is well aware of this, but he carries out his policy and specifically incites to get a specific reaction. turkey is not going to be a target for israel, and let me say something that not everyone is saying outright, but the fact is that hamas and hezbollah have gained enormous influence in the middle east. and note that many countries in the arab world are silent because officially they cannot and do not side with israel, but in reality they are holding their fists so that the hamas and hezbollah was resolved because for the serious countries of the persian gulf, the

he could have been a great kgb agent because he knew what your weakness was. he tried to exploit that weakness and he would dangle the bait and once he got you on the hook, he would demand things in return. and also tell you, i'm going to, i have, i have the evidence and i'm going to out you if you, if you don't do what i say, ultimately, there were hundreds of navy officers who were involved, about 33 of them pleaded guilty to crimes. others were given censures and other administrative -- >> careers were lost. >> admirals, captains. i have been in the business for 20 years and i shouldn't be surprised by it, but i was surprised at the extent of it and why nobody raised their hand earlier or more vociferously and there were a few but said no. and i think part of the reason, i mean, i tried to think about what the reasons were and i think part of the reason was they saw everybody else doing it. some of them felt entitled to it. they were risking their lives on behalf of their country. some of them felt when we were out in the pacific and, you know, they're not

in a direct clash between there are no israeli army and kgb fighters, but the group says they are ready to resist. bbc correspondent, hüchega from beirut further. hezbollah continues to behave defiantly. yesterday , the group's second-ranking leader, naim kassem , said hezbollah fighters were ready to resist any israeli incursion. so this is a part of the country that is a hezbollah stronghold. of course, after two weeks of large-scale israeli strikes and high-profile killings, hezbollah is weakened, its leadership almost completely destroyed, but the group remains a very powerful force. it is believed that she has thousands of rockets, including rockets that can strike deep into israel, and has many thousands of experienced fighters. so the question is how hezbollah will respond to the operation, whether it will be able to mount a coordinated and significant response. in lebanon, it is more than a militia. it is a political and social movement with significant support, often referred to here as a state within a state. for nearly a year, people have expressed concern that by attacking i

what and why the fbi was obliged and essentially for years to a kgb spy in its midst. yeah. so robert hanssen was an fbi agent who was the most damaging in fbi history as a result of him spying for the russians in the. for over two decades, we lost a number of assets. we lost secrets we lost sensitive technologies. and he evaded detection for 20 years. eventually, he was caught in thousand and one. and when it happened, the fbi said, well, that's because he was intelligence analyst in the fbi and he used his intelligence skills evade detection. and so we were asked, investigate how did it happen and what we found out was that nothing could have been further from the truth. he was a mediocre agent, very unusual, twisted individual with all sorts of red flags, and he was very flieger in about what he was doing. but nobody really followed up on it. so he was never given a background investigation 20 years. he didn't have to take a polygraph he spent money way beyond his means and spent money way beyond his means. he would take he took a stripper with him on an inspection tour.

and by the way, you see, the kgb was very careful after the death of nasrallah, because they understood the end of the story, that... to give him a ceremonial burial, because they believed that if they will hold a funeral, then the people who will be participants in this funeral will become targets for the israeli special services, after that, as we understand, they conspired even more seriously. and now, judging by the latest information, israel was able to hit hachem safeidin, when this head of the hezbollah executive committee held a meeting with the leadership that remained, and perhaps not only he died, but also many leading representatives of this terrorist organization, this is also absolutely realistically, it can be so, and in principle i think that the situation here is ... it is absolutely realistic that he died, so israel continues to destroy this organization, this whole story with pagers and... walkie-talkies, it led to the fact that a huge number of khozbol fighters were disabled, well, that is, in fact, what israel needs, israel needs , so that lebanon regains its state

i mean, it is really strange, and someday, you know, when some kgb officer defects, we will find out >> seven phone calls of vladimir putin. i mean, what are your -- if someone said you can listen all seven of them, what is your theory on it? >> it's funny. what we have heard from calls that he's had with foreign leaders like the zelenksyy phone call, and there was a terrific story in the new york times today about the hamburg conference. in 2017. and what you find about the conversations is that one guy is talking 97% of the time, and that's vladimir putin, and one guy is listening. what was so upsetting as he was coached to go in there to defend ukraine, you have to defend u.s. interests, and he actually asked putin the question, do you think i should be giving aid to ukraine? this is maybe the worst presidential negotiation in american history from a guy who claims to be a good negotiator. i think putin is talking his ear off, and he is listening. ya know, that's backed by j.p. morgan's leading strategists like us. when you want to invest with more confidence... the answer is j.p.

the story told through the voice of victor petrovich, a former kgb agent whose life becomes inextricably linked with ronald reagan's. when reagan first caught the soviets attention. as an actor in hollywood, the movie was not reagan foundation project. however, we are really excited to have a converse with members of the cast and play a handful of clips from the film. in a moment we're going to be joined on stage by the following four cast members. i ask that you please hold your applause until they join us on stage. so first, of course, is dennis an emmy and two time golden globe nominee known for his roles in movies such as the rookie the day after tomorrow, the parent trap and many many more. a household. his work has spanned multiple generations of beloved films. in addition to acting, is also a musician releasing albums, and he is currently promoting a new gospel album titled fallen, a gospel record for sinners and since we're all sinners, it's an album for everybody. there we go. dennis said that playing ronald reagan was one of the greatest honors his life and he was inspired, by

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someday, when some kgb officer defects, we will find out the true story. >> seven phone calls with vladimirf you could listen to all seven of them, what is the theory on it? >> you know, it is funny. we have heard from calls we have known he has had with foreign leaders like vladimir zelenskyy. there was the -- >> yeah, we had that yesterday. >> in 2017. what you find about the conversations is, one guy is talking 97% of the time, vladimir putin and one guy is listening. what was so upsetting, you were encouraged to go in there and encouraged to defend ukraine and u.s. interests and she -- he actually asked putin the question should i be giving aid to ukraine? this is probably the worst presidential negotiation from a guy who claims to be a good negotiator. i think putin is talking his ear off and he is listening. ♪ ♪ stening. ♪ ♪ sounds like you need to vaporize that cold. nyquil vapocool? it's nyquil plus a rush of vicks vapors. ♪ vapocooooool ♪ nyquil vapocool. the vaporizing night time, sniffling, sneezing, coughing, best sleep with a cold, medicine. our right to reproductive health car

been debriefing if it is all true and secondly, you just have to worry about the influence a trained kgb putin can exert over someone like donald trump. >> okay. admiral, i want to apologize, i'm out of time. will you please come back and talk about your book? i'm so excited to talk with you about it. we are going to do that. we look forward to seeing you again. the restless wave, thank you. good to see you. we will be right back. that apprentice film finally appeared in america why donald trump might not want you to see it. we will get to that soon. subject 1: who's coming in the driveway? subject 2: dad! dad! dad, we missed you! daddy, hi! subject 3: goodness! my daughter is being treated for leukemia. i hope that she lives a long, great, happy life and that she will never forget how mom and daddy love her. st. jude, i mean, this is what's keeping my baby girl alive. announcer: you can join the battle to save lives by supporting st. jude children's research hospital. for just $19 a month, you'll help us continue the lifesaving research and treatment these kids need-- now and in the fut

now, vladimir putin is a former kgb chief. we are quite certain he has ordered people killed in recent years. he says completely impassive nyet and that was the end of the interview. >> that is an art form, it really is. and what happened to barbara walters when she moved into the times where she put together the tv show, "the view" which you know, daytime television, chatty girl stuff. what was the reaction to that and why did she really believe-- she and bill getty, her producer, really believed that that was something they could move forward with. >> and bill getty who i interviewed and since passed away, he always wanted to do a daytime show and barbara was interested as well and barbara told bill that jackie, talking with her daughter jackie, why don't we do an interview show with different ages and perspectives, rather than having women of the same point of view, younger and older women, a mix and have the lively conversations like i have with my daughter. so they -- abc had a daytime slot, 11:00 in the morning, where a

now, vladimir putin is a former kgb chief. we are quite certain has ordered people killed in recent years, he says, completely impassive yet. and that was the end of the interview that that is an art form. it it it really is the what happened to walters when she moved into the time where she put together the tv show the view, which, you know, daytime television, chatty girls stuff. what was the reaction to that and why did she really believe she and bill getting her producer really believe that that that that was something they could move forward with? well, bill, getting her longtime producer, who i interviewed several times for the book, has since passed away. he had always wanted to do a daytime show and barbara and he had talked about it for years. and barbara was interested in as well. and she always told bill that her daughter, jackie was interested that talking her daughter, jackie, made her think, why don't we do an interview show with women of different ages and perspective? because rather than have all women of the s

the story is told through the stories of victor, a former kgb agent whose lives become linked. the movie was not a reagan foundation project, however, we are really excited to have a conversation with members of thc cast and play a handful of clips from the film. in a moment, we are going to be joined on stage by the following forecast members. i ask that you please hold your applause until they join us on stage. so first, dennis quade and enemy, two-time golden globe nominee in the rooky, parent trap and many, many, many more. household name, work has spentne multiple generations of beloved films. in addition to acting dennis is also a musician releasing multiple albums and currently promoting a new gospel album titled fallen, a gospel record for sinners. and since we are all sinners it's album for everybody. there we go. dennis said that playing ronald reagan was one of the greatest honors of his life and inspired by the many parallels each of them had in their lives. next ilia attended moscow's prestigious theater and built a considerable career in tv and film, he is also a

then this, the case is just right, the girlfriend dumped you, that's the thing, and you went to the kgbet them give birth first, then open their mouths, i'll take it into account, you know, how did you meet tsvetkova, on some corpse, well, you see, it's a bad case, and now that you're pregnant, marya sergeyevna. guys, where have you disappeared to? i'm worried. it's nice. yes , there was such a fuss here, in general, it's only just settled down. everything is fine, everyone is alive. well, that is, everyone who needs to be alive is alive. well, bye. no, not everyone is alive, those who need to be alive? yes. korablyov, yes. columburit. yeah. okay, fine. tell me whose idea was it to establish surveillance of the carp? mine. how did you get it? friends, no, no, not friends, karpov owed money in orenburg, was hiding, they sent these two after him, they found him, karpov had no money, but he had a relationship with makova, and he came up with this story about the kidnapping, alphonse, well, yes, poor girls, that's how he meets someone like that, that's it, it goes , get into trouble, it hap

he's kgb, he's manipulating him. he's getting he's getting information from him. and donald trump's falling for it because it's just lauding his ego because that's who donald trump is. >> we will see what the reaction would be from all of this. obviously there's special counsel had been intrigued if what you're saying is even remotely true about information sharing on these very points. but senator jd vance, who of course is the running mate, as you know, of trump, he says those phone calls between trump can be summed up with one word diplomacy does that make any sense? >> no. he's not the current president of the united states. what kind of diplomacy is he doing behind the scenes? because actually i think that's illegal you do on president's age and diplomatic relationships to be fair. that is fair, yes. but what i'm saying is like what diplomacy with putin, when he's actually invading ukraine? right now in hurting the ukrainian people. so i don't see donald trump advocating for ukraine. i don't see him doing that publicly. i mean, so i'm just, you know, what goe

british diplomatic service , british diplomatic service, which he feels he was a victim of when he was a kgb the cold war. and he's a terrible snob, rather like donald trump . he rather like donald trump. he rather likes the royal family. >> well, we gave him a state visit. yes, but. >> and you know that they would like to be part of it. and that sounds kind of jokey, but it does account for the kind of extravagance. and that is a euphemism of his deputy, one of his deputies who served briefly as president in his time, dmitri medvedev, who said it is time to blast britain off the face of the earth. and there have been athletes coming up saying it's time to put this is a really dangerous thing, a dirty bomb in london. and that is a real that is a real risk, a real threat. and can we look at the back of that? things ? despite the that? things? despite the triumphalism, things are not going well in ukraine. they're not going particularly well for the ukrainians. they're really up against it. but it's not going really as well as the russians had expected, because what putin wanted was a decision

he was a former kgb officer. this is in the early nineties, early early nineties, 91, 92. he wore very ugly suits. he wore bad suits. he had a bad haircut. yeah. he was kind of pasty as well. he's actually it's a bit like bathos has changed, as you said, but that's the end of kind of comparison, although putin doesn't seem to have a new wife. so that's different. yeah, divorce is old over. yeah. she lives in. i heard she was living in paris, but maybe that's anyway in another way. but anyway, this. so, so. so how did how did and i, i try to dissect this a little bit in the book. how did putin become so powerful while he as as the deputy mayor of st petersburg and they're details and you know i the stories reported by a lot of great journalists essentially he was part of a group of people who stole lot of money. they stole money from the city of petersburg. as i said, they took it out of the country. they laundered it through financial institutions. very often worked with western partners, germans from liechtenstein. they had western bankers. there was a company that putin

voting for trump when you are voting for somebody who is a kgb agent.has -- he does not have business -- he has a narrow scope. he is dealing with somebody who has international scope and a kgb agent. that is a spy. host: this is betty in illinois. caller: my fingers are tired from reed dialing and all that, so i understand what denise was talking about, but i got through. i want to encourage everyone -- i wanted to be on with david becker. i want to encourage everyone to just go work the elections. go be a pull person. do that. you will see it is friendly, most places, and i would just encourage everyone to do that at least once, even the primaries when it is a little slower. they teach you everything. they show you everything. you get to know your neighbors. i have met some really wonderful people and some really crazy people. thank you very much. host: last week on this program, we started one of our programs speaking to pull workers only -- poll workers only. it was a great conversation with people talking about why they do it and experiences they h

him about russia's interests, the entire apparatus says that putin has turned on his, as they say, kgbechniques and explains russia's interests to trump, this must be fought. and it turns out that the entire apparatus trump worked against him, if you like, mr. tillerson testified. now, what do we see? now we see how he speaks in the czech republic. if you asked me what i would do right now, i would like to bomb the iranian nuclear facilities today, today, but if we are talking about russia, i don’t know, we have to continue to support the ukrainians so that they can defend themselves, they need to be helped even more. we need them to stop this varovian country that is swallowing up ukraine and then wants to swallow up someone else. i don’t i think there is some magic solution, i don't have it, because i don't believe that a change of leadership in moscow will lead to fundamental changes in russia as an empire. the national security bureau echoes this. let's do a thought experiment now. each of us has met russians, especially during our vacation. somewhere in italy, in a pizzeria? do yo

side of -- >> by the way, the same man that jonathan lemire asked, do you trust vladimir putin, ex-kgbn who considers america its enemy, or your own intel services more, and he said vladimir putin. the man -- there's so many questions about russia. and donald trump. and it's all dismissed as, quote, russia hoax. >> and it perpetuates what's been a fundamental question of american politics, i don't know, for ten years now. what is this about, what possibly motivates this kind of supportive, tolerant fan boy approach between a former president of the united states and vladimir putin? it continues to reinforce something we don't know. >> and that's happened in a vacuum, it's years of flattery of vladimir putin saying if i'm elected i'll have a deal to end the war in 24 hours if that's true, it would be a deal that would benefit vladimir putin, of course. jd vance, trump's running mate dismissive when asked yesterday about bob woodward's new reporting. >> i honestly didn't know that bob woodward was still alive until you asked me that question. what little i know about bob woodward is that

we're talking about a very practiced kgb officer who served through the rank of lieutenant colonel aso engage his target, his agents, and he's using trump and elon as his agents, and, in this case, he's just using their own egos, their own vanities, the fact that by engaging with putin they are feeding their egos to manipulate them and message them. in the case of elon, it looks like he's directed him to inhibit the expansion of starlink to taiwan, potentially he's inhibited him to provide support, even the commercial support, to ukraine through starlink, and he's done that -- i think he's also effectively manipulated trump and elon with saber rattling. they are not skilled. so his warnings that somehow this is going to trigger a nuclear war are the same things that you hear both trump and elon and tucker carlson parrot. so he's just effectively manipulating them and using them as useful idiots. >> david, to the political layer of this, there's strength, which you see in general john kelly's courage of stepping out of a sh you see in general john kelly's courage of stepping out of a n

some day, i hope, when some kgb officer defects, we'll find out the true story. >> seven phone calls someone said you can listen to all seven of them, what's the theory on it? >> it's funny. we have heard phone calls that he's had with foreign leaders, like the zelenskyy phone call. there was that terrific story "the new york times" today about the hamburg -- >> yeah. >> in 2017. and what you find about the conversations is one guy is talking 97% of the time. that's vladimir putin. and one guy is listening. so it was so upsetting about the hamburg thing is that he was coached to go in there. you have to defend ukraine. you have to defend u.s. interests. and he actually asked putin the question, do you think i should be giving aid to ukraine? this is maybe the worst presidential negotiation in american history from a guy who claims to be a good negotiator. so i think putin is talking his ear off and he's listening. >> no one is going anywhere. we have to fit in a very short break. we'll all be right back. there's so much more. more i pop on a pad and get a mop-like clean floor in just

vladimir putin is a former kgb official there's just no question that vladimir putin would have been trying to utilize elon musk as an asset for the russian state the question is what was elon musk thinking he was doing in the conversations and what did he actually do in the conversations? nothing beyond that general description of the content of the conversations though the question i have in my mind as reading that piece is whether or not the united states intercepted the conversations and whether people in the u.s. intelligence know what elon musk was saying to vladimir putin >> that is the big question. the other thing i was going to ask you is this idea in the article that because he has so much quote/unquote power insofar as he controls starlink and spacex and the government knew this, they were treading lightly on this. do you believe that? >> i do. that squares with my understanding of reality here. the u.s. government is in some ways in a box here, andrew they can't get to space without spacex the pentagon has a billion plus classified contract with spacex. we have u.s. gove

i identifying our soviet assets who were then executed by the kgb. so the idea that women aren't a objective or aggressive was just proved over and over. so you might say, why does any of this matter if women are being discriminated against at a big institution like? this we know that that sort of went on for decades. we've seen mad men. you know, that's a that's that's sort of a relic of our american past. but, you know, we did a pretty good job. cia did pretty good job. but but let it not be forgotten. there was a group of women analysts who were back at headquarters assessing all of this intelligence that's who were writing reports. there was a group of women at the cia who as early as 1993, were very aware that, a man named bin laden and a group al qaida were were were were hatching a new kind of plot. america were presenting a new kind of threat. after the collapse of the soviet union, after the apparent defeat of communism in the soviet union. and so this woman, gina bar was part of a group of female analysts who had been channeled into a non p