it's kind of strange that after the libyan support it there are militias for a violent overthrow of khadafi there are now decrying the militias continued violence and power grabbing after the revolution don't you see that as a bit naïve i think i don't think it's naive i think it's up to this moment. i think if one is against militarization if one is against unchecked militarization if one is against. the arms. you can from the very beginning to the end we had voices that were saying ok you are now arming the revolution. aries but how are we going and specially in the case of libya so the war off liberation or the revolution was took only six months not to like the syrian case so. it could have been easy to decide on these revolutionaries but this was not the case so there were voices from the beginning who were thinking about ok we are now arming civilians to get rid of gaddafi and to protect civilians yeah but what on the other. arenas their life that people who risk their lives people who killed they want reward why would they seek power that's just a rule of the game that's the way it g

years after the libyan revolution you regret calling for days a rage the movement that helped topple khadafi you say it's time to call for comparing compassion and mercy that sounds commendable but people who will do the fighting against those who resist change and those people need rage to win where would any revolution be without that. exactly and i keep on i always call myself. a reflective or a meditating revolutionary i know that part of me in two thousand and eleven was really angry and was passionate but my point is that with passion and anger or rage alone you cannot build societies yes you can you can revolt against the dictator but what about the day after i think we as libyan people did not give much thought about that and so the rage of passion of the revolution does not build nations and certainly does not build states and the other part of it is that the international community in the name of responsibility to protect which intervened and created this model of the libyan model the life intervention has made drastic mistakes in libya in not having a political strategy for the da

we would never have toppled that government in the case of khadafi he had renounced his nuclear ambitions and he was an ally of this country we replaced him with a governmental system which kills christians kills gays abuse abuses women no women are no longer allowed to own property or to get an education or even appear in public without avail hillary clinton is an advocate for women no hillary clinton is an oppressive and black lives matter unless you live in libya in which case black lives don't matter at all now mr stone if i may ask you if i may i would also like to ask you about your business partner and longtime associate paul man a fourth who prior to advise ing campaign also worked had worked for almost ten years as a low beast in ukraine and its what's ironic about mr mann a fourth is that in the united states he's investigated for allegedly russian ties in russia some people believe that he is this western stooge responsible in part for precipitating the current crisis in ukraine how do you assess his work in ukraine well first of all he did not work as a lobbyist he worked as a

the reason why they became a nuclear power is because they learned through repeated saddam hussein khadafi in libya that if you give up that the only thing that protects you from us regime change is a nuclear weapon you give up their day or they learned that lesson well but trust big problem now is his relations not with north korea but with south korea they've got a new prime minister who is pushing for much of a new president i'm sorry president moon who is pushing for much better relations kind of a detente he wants discussion with north korea he's not happy about the sad that the u.s. not going in the middle of nowhere making the south koreans pay for it to get he had trouble getting the south koreans that pay for the trump wanting to renegotiate trade deals with south korea trump sending a fleet protect south korea that actually ends up in the indian ocean instead all of this is an extremely embarrassing and right now south korea has had better relations with the united will be exactly what the president in the oval office meeting it looks like to the new president. was kind of bendin