joneigh khaldun, center for michigan's department of health and dr. wayne frederick, president of howard university and a reminder, he is one of the few university presidents who is dr. osterholm, let me start with you. is there any way we avoid what some people thought was alarmist a few weeks ago when dr. fauci said he was worried about 100,000 cases a day. also an m.d. welcome to you all dr. osterholm, let me start wit where we've been. we have probably you. is there any way we avoid what some people thought was alarmist a few weeks ago when dr. fauci said he was worried about 100,000 cases a day. is it inevitable at this point that that's where we're headed in a couple of weeks >> well, to put it into perspective, again, we look at where we've been we have probably infected 7% to 8% of the u.s. population to date that's it, with the pain, suffering, death and economic disruption, that's it. as we talked about on this very show this virus won't stop and let alone stop transmission until we get to 50% or 60% to put that into perspective, chuck, if w

joneigh khaldun, chief medical executive for michigan's department of health. dr.ne frederick, president of howard university and a reminder, he is one of the few university presidents who is also an m.d. welcome to you all dr. osterholm, let me start with you. is there any way we avoid what some people thought was alarmist a few weeks ago when dr. fauci said he was worried about 100,000 cases a day. is it inevitable at this point that that's where we're headed in a couple of weeks >> well, to put it into perspective, again, we look at where we've been we have probably infected 7% to 8% of the u.s. population to date that's it. for all the pain, suffering, death, economic disruption, that's it. as we talked about on this very show this virus won't slow down, let alone stop transmission, until we get to 50%, 60% to put that into perspective, chuck, if we had 65,000 to 75,000 cases a day for the next 365 days, it would just begin to get to us that level so we have a lot of human wood to burn in this coronavirus forest fire. and, you know, we may see ups and downs in

khaldun, do you think it's younger folks laxing on the requirements or is there something else going> like i said, we saw our cases come down after march and april. what we are seeing now is as we started reopening the economy, we are seeing people gathering, churches, bars, people having these house parties. we're seeing some outbreaks associated with migrant farmworkers, as well. there are multiple reasons why we're seeing an uptick. what we're saying is the demographic has also changed. before june, most of the cases we were seeing were in people age over 50 and now the top casers 20 to 21 age group so that's something we're concerned about. >> dr. frederick, you and i have talked quite a bit since the start of the pandemic and early on you were optimistic about howard university developing its own test and you were almost going to be able to create a bubble on the campus. i know you've made an announcement of the hybrid situation. are you confident that yoourl have t you'll have the testing capabilities that you said three or four months ago? >> i am. later this week we hope to s