because you could be the next khalid. -- kelly. >> you can vote on our web site. >> be patient. it may take your time to get through the registration process. do not get frustrated. >> vote for me. i cannot register at first. but eventually, i could. >> i have a video of the polar bear plunge. if i can plunge, i can do that. >> let's talk a little bit of weather now. we have some cloud cover rolling in. you will see some sun later. there is a fraud which is -- front which is translating into warm and muggy air. we were 90 at the harbor yesterday. we will be around 87 degrees-92 degrees. >> the downed trees are gone but there are traffic lights out in many areas. if you're heading out this morning in the next few minutes, there is a traffic light out in one area. franklin boulevard and church road, and another area where you will have problems getting through due to the power outages. not too much in terms of problems. 97 south of the beltway checking out fine. and nice ride on the entire beltway. that is the latest. back to you. >> federer big story this morning, a rash of viole

notable absence, khalid sheik mohammed.atherine herridge is live at guantanomo bay to tell us what happened. good evening, catherine. >> thanks, bret. right now i'm standing about 25 yards from the court mouse. in the courthouse today, we had five 9/11 families who were able to secure seats through a defense department lottery. a short time ago, he wrapped up a news conference. each one of the families said president obama is making a mistake by closing guantanomo bay. >> i am afraid if they get into a federal court system an potentially have to be bran diesed in the statements that they freely gave, they will drag it out for another 15, 20 years. >> khalid sheik mohammed is a coward. we're willing to face him and all of his evil, but he is not willing to face us, the families, the victims' families or you, the press. >> only three of the five 9/11 conspirators were in court today. also absent with ben al shiv, an alleged member of the hamburg cell where hijacker mohammed atta finalized the attack plans. the attorney for al

and, you know, the idea that the next khalid sheik mohammed should get a sixth amendment right claims in court? i mean, i wouldn't want to campaign on that but, steven, i appreciate it lots of protections can be given short of these constitutional protections. and, directly ahead, new allegations of foul play in the death of michael jackson. the media has already had a field day with this one. plus, the palin beashes are now attacking the governor's role as a mother. one of them is going to be here to explain. going to be fireworks. we'll be right back. if you're taking 8 extra-strength tylenol... a day on the days that you have arthritis pain, you could end up taking 4 times the number... of pills compared to aleve. choose aleve and you could start taking fewer pills. just 2 aleve have the strength... to relieve arthritis pain all day. laura: michael jackson main i can't. the public may have had it but the public -- media cannot get enough. reports that abc news paid $200,000 for rights to a video with michael's parents joe and catherine jackson and, guess what, joe jackson then sat

today confessed 9/11 mastermind khalid sheikh muhammad, a no show for his pretrial hearing at guantanamo bay. it would have been the first time in court since president obama announced the closing of the military prison in cuba. some other defendants said to be stepping up their antics as the families of 9/11 victims watch and wait for justice. catherine herridge is streaming live from guantanamo bay tonight. catherine? >> yes, shepard, right now i'm standing about 25 yards from the courthouse and five of the 9/11 families were in court today having secured seats through a defense department lottery. a short time ago they wrapped up a news conference. each one of the families said that president obama is making a mistake by closing guantanamo bay. >> to mr. obama, senators and representatives, please keep guantanamo bay open and the commission hearings continuing. you must pursue justice for the 3,000 victims of 9/11. >> we must do what we have to do to keep this camp open. >> we learned a lot today about one of the accused conspirators . he is an alleged member of the hamburg cell where

and, you know, the idea that the next khalid sheik mohammed should get a sixth amendment right claims in court? i mean, i wouldn't want to campaign on that but, steven, i appreciate it lots of protections can be given short of these constitutional protections. and, directly ahead, new allegations of foul play in the death of michael jackson. the media has already had a field day with this one. plus, the palin beashes are now attacking the governor's role as a mother. one of thehehehehehehehehe want to know how fast it took my stiff joints to feel better? one pack. 6 days. that's elations. new elations. clinically proven to improve joint comfort... in as little as six days. drinking it every day keeps it working. elations has clinically proven levels... of glucosamine and chondroitin, in a powerful form that's more absorbable... than joint supplement pills. tastes great. goodbye, horse pills. start your joints on the road to comfort... in one pack, six days. that's elations. the new standard in joint health. the option to name your price -- new and only from progressive. call or click

it ended up day after day of disingenuousness to the point of boredom -- if you ever want to make khalid shaikh mohammed talk, you make him watched those hearings and leslie. he will say anything. >> what about the chance president obama will one day look at this justice and said, amid a mistake. >> she will be the reverse on the court. not anything like the woman who was there testifying. >> i think she is more conservative on some issues that you anticipate, and we are going to see it right away. although, most justices, you don't get a good feeling for them after they are on the bench a few years. but you had the case this year that was 5-4 that said that you can't just submit a forensic report, you have to of the person who did it -- >> the lab technician. >> it was 5-4. justice scalia wrote it, one of those out coalition of liberals and conservatives. i think there is a good chance that the decision will be reversed or totally undercut and she will be the fifth boat replacing souter the other way. >> spent 12 years on the hispanic legal defense of funds in which she struggled mighti

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khalid sheik mohammed is going to die in american cussed to i did -- custody, whether in guantanomo or on american soil, it doesn't matter. that's going to be under the obama administration and its successor. that was the main issue on which democrats attacked the republicans and now it is going to be a huge concession. as mara indicated, the beauty of this is that we will end up with a national consensus. democrats are going to agree tacitly by action and not in word that the bush administration has it right, and they will end up with a version of the bush policy. bret: politically does it pay off for republicans? >> the politics of this are fascinating. people didn't love guantanomo bay, but they like releasing terrorists a lot less. you know who had the politics right from the beginning was mitch mcconnell. i interviewed him two days before barack obama was inaugurated and he said to me, he can't close gitmo, and people understand you can't close gitmo. it turns out he was right on the policy and also on the politics of this. bret: mara, last word. how does it end? >> i think guanta

>> and the longs fear evidence that could convict the 9/11 conspirators including khalid sheikh muhammaday not make it into federal court. >> what if the cases get thrown out? i would personally be devastated. >> a spokesman for the task force tells fox they welcome all of the opinions of the 9/11 families because it will help to make better decisions in the future. for the longs and other 9/11 families, it has still been eight long years without a trial. shep? shepard: catherine herridge from cuba for us tonight. we have new details tonight about the secret c.i.a. proposal to capture or kill al qaeda operatives. the big deal with all of this was that the vice president is accused now of keeping secrets from congress. a former senior intelligence official tells fox news the idea cam up several times under three different directors of the central intelligence agency. the proposed plan was first developed during the george tenet era in the days after the attacks of 9/11. but according to the official, tenet canceled the idea right before he left the agency in 2004. however, we're told his

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when dealing with khalid sheik mohammed or individuals that we have that have violated the geneva conventions. >> no. it's interesting in the prior discussions we were having, we talked about the distinction between detaining someone under the law of war for the duration of the hostilities and there is some question about exactly when these hostilities will cease. but separate from that is an ability to convict someone for violations of the law of war or violations of the criminal code and to hold them for the duration of their sentence which very well might go quite behind the end of hostilities. that would be a fixed sentence by a court of prosecution. >> i wanted to throw that out there and add that element to that conversation. you know, one of the things that concerns me, and i know a lot of much time -- but one of the things that concerns me is when we're talking about the role of the commander in chief and we're talking about the lawfulness under the laws of war, the geneva conventions, the prisoner of war status, guantanamo bay which i also visited, you know, there's a lot left up to

clayton: emotions will be running high when khalid shaikh mohammed is in the same military courtroomms. steve: the president had put all those trials on hold. from gitmo is catherine herridge. >> good morning. to give you an idea of where these guys are standing right now, earlier this year they sent this letter to the court, and in this letter they say you accuse us of killing 3,000 americans, but we want you to know that we don't consider this an insult, we consider this a badge of honor. the first issue is whether two of the conspiracies are so mentally ill that they are not it in to stand trial, and the last few minutes we've already had drama which is pretty typical. the two men we're being told are refusing to come to their own hearing. the second issue is whether the court will give the administration another three months to delay the process until september until the review is concluded. also before this trip we spoke to the longs. they're from leesburg, virginia. both of them lost somebody in 9/11. melissa lost her boyfriend who was a new york city firefighter and brian long

trace: well, the 9/11 master mind khalid sheikh mohammed will appear in court and families of his victimsere promised a seat at the table when it came to seeing justice for their loved ones and now that promise may be broken. she'll be denied coverage because of a pre-existing condition. and he won't get the chemotherapy he needs. if we don't act, health care costs will rise 70%. and he'll have to cut benefits for his employees. but we can act. the president and congress have a plan to lower your costs and stop denials for pre-existing conditions. martha: welcome back to "live desk," everybody. i'm martha maccallum. trace: i'm trace gallagher. brand-new breaking news and senators questioning sonia sotomayor refusing to answer a question on her views on abortion and said president obama never asked her about the issue before he picked her. coming up this hour, senators arlen specter and al franken question judge sotomayor and police investigating the cold-blooded murder of a florida coup. they have release ad new person of interest and now the sheriff says another person was apparently sup

today, khalid sheikh mohammed is appearings at a tribunal in guantanamo bay, cuba.e will be appearing before a military judge and representing by military lawyers and a military prosecutor. the one thing i want to say here i've been a judge advocate, a member of the legal community for well over 25 years and to america and world who may be watching this, i have nothing but great admiration and respect for those men and women who serve in our judge advocate corps who will be given the obligation by our nation to render justice against people like khalid shake sheikh mohammed. to those who wonder why we do this. why do we give him a trial? why are we so concerned about him having this day in court? why do we give him a lawyer when we know what he would do to our people in his hands? i would just like to say that it makes us better than him. it makes us stronger for us to give the mastermind of 9/11 his day in court represented by counsel and any verdict that comes his way won't be based on prejudice or passion or religious bigotry, it will be based on facts. now, let'

among those five is khalid sheikh muhammad. he is the confessed mastermind of the world trade center attacks. catherine herridge is streaming live from guantanamo bay, cuba, where the trial is underway. court is in recess now. where do things stand? >> well, just to give you some perspective, right now, martha, i am standing about 25 yards from that courthouse, and this hearing is really a procedural hearing, it's in a brief recess. throughout the morning, we have been hearing about one of the 9/11 conspirators. it's alleged that bin al-shib was in germany where the hijackers planned the attacks. the defense attorney for him told the court this morning that he is so crazy now that he thinks he is an orange. he thinks he is a piece of fruit and that he also believes the guards at guantanamo bay every night vibrate his bed so he can't sleep. and he also thinks that they are pumping noxious odors in his cell in an effort to kill him. now, the government said that they are not completely buying this, but for the time being, that is

part of the chain that produces terror, but they -- >> hizb-ut-tahrir, they have reported ties to khalideikh mohammed and zarqawi and when you look at that indoctrination they allegedly have with those groups, what are your concerns what they might be doing on u.s. soil? is it a part of homegrown terrorism many people fear. >> well, for them to hold a public event like this one, even if they have held before, few other events, for them to say now they are going to be strategically working in the u.s., it means at least two things, number one, they feel comfortable and feel neither the public or the media or the government is aware of their activity, that think that by the slogans, what is better economically for the world and, now, all the other slogans they throw, they are going to be accepted and the other hand it means this is the tip the iceberg, the organization is much bigger than what we think. >> kelly: it would appear they have grown more bold as well, walid, because, today's seminar which they are holding is entitled, and i'm quoting here "the fall of capitalism and the rise of

this week we spoke to two families who are here in guantanamo, they were able to get seats because khalide is the father of andrea haberman. she was on her first job with car futures, she was in new york city on september 11th for her first business trip, and she was killed in the north tower. it took them five years to find her remains, and last month when he smoke with the task force he says he just couldn't get a straight answer on whether this country is at war or not with terrorists. we also spoke to the longs. this is the first television interview they've ever given. brian lost his parents on 9/11. they were on the flight that crashed into the pentagon, and melissa lost her boyfriend at that time, a new york city firefighter. they have also been part of this review process with the families, and melissa told us at a meeting in june she came away extremely frustrated. >> i think that the task force members had to be there, they listened, only one of them took notes, and the rest of them just -- they took flack, they took a lot of heat, there was a lot of questions gone unanswered, b

ian khalid speaks with reporters for 20 minutes. >> there were a number of activities that were closed to the press. she hosted a breakfast this morning for congressional leaders. it gave her an opportunity to preview her trip to india and get some feedback from the senior congressional leaders on our the use -- our views of india. it was the opportunity to highlight the growing strategic partnership that we have with india and our broad, strategic, bilateral agenda. by now she is having lunch with a member of senior policy experts. they are all from think tanks and related academic institutions for an exchange of use -- of views. as you know, at 230 -- to cut 30 today, we are going to have a official briefed you all on a background of recent agency delegations went to china and malaysia to discuss the implementation security revolution. with that information, i will be glad to take your questions. >> what senior leaders from the health were at this press? >> we had both chairmen from both houses of congress of the foreign affairs committees. you had carian firm burhman -- e the comple

>> there have been former members of al-qaeda from khalid shaikh mohammed was a former member, he wasattack plannings, and another individual was an iraqi al-qaeda leader, and the issue is larger i believe than simply al-qaeda alone. it's the issue that these organizations deliberately and consciously within our country are seeking to attack democracy, attack equality, and attack freedom. they're against freedom. brian: and they're against capitalism, and you said a lot of these people look american, it's on the card, look like they're from america, they speak english, so why would they live in a capitalist country in a democracy if they hate it so much? >> why would they hold a meeting against capitalism at the hilton? of all places? i think that speaks volumes as to how absurd some of their goals are, but as absurd as they may be, we should not take them lightly. there are a good 700 people there that were taking what they were saying very seriously. brian: gotcha. thanks. >> yes, that's right. ainsley: thank you. he went to afghanistan to give the people there a better life, but no