>> we have seen the collapse before the military tribunals of the khalid shaikh mohammad prosecution. military -- i completely accept the rationale for doing the military commission approach. but it has not worked. it dls not been able to deliver the kind of results, especially in the high-profile cases. and ironically, the civilian judicial system with all of its protections has been able to be more -- not expeditious, but more expeditious than the commission system has been. >> but that's a pretty interesting point. let me get to this, the follow-up, which i wanted to ask, about the numbers. when you look at khalid shaikh mohammad, arrested a decade ago, still awaiting trial. 777 detainees have gone through gitmo, six convictions of 779. in the new york courts, 39 cases. a lot fewer. but 35 of them have ended with a guilty plea or conviction. sounds like it would be better to go in new york. >> i think you have a point. i think david has a point. the point is that the military commissions, as fashioned by congress, are pretty much of a mess. congress fashioned this system of militar

those who are probably at most twenty guys who are bad guys who were taken in later guys like khalid shaikh mohammad the other people are and most nothing more than half of them eighty six of the may have been cleared at least for three years and some during the bush administration cleared as innocent people and they're still there and they're frustrated i mean i don't care if you're held in the dorchester hotel in london or the best hotel the ritz carlton in moscow and you're confined to that room for eleven years and you can't see your family you can't go out and talk to people you can't read freely you can't get about i don't care that's a lousy condition even if you're fed the best food every day and believe me they're not i mean they are imprisoned improperly without a chance to get out that's the worst condition so the only ones sounding the alarm over the hunger strike into one of the world's most clinch of the shell prisons. reports on the lack of all social reaction to the protests. as the guantanamo hunger strike enters its forty second day there's been very little response and no outcry f