in contrast to khalid sheikh mohammed, will never regret what he did, will never apologize. i bet you a paycheck this kid apologizes one day. his bubb sell burst. >> rose: so you don't think that khalid sheikh mohammed will ever say i regret it. >> no. he spent years surrounded by people who not only were like-mind but were very smart in thinking about what they were doing. za what hari, the current leader took over from bin laden in al jid-- al qaeda, very thoughtful guy. he has some knowledge of what the history of jihad is, i don't think he is a great leader compared to bin laden but they sat around a camp fire for years in 1990s into 2001 and smart guys persuade each other. brainwashing is too strong a word, i think is too too simplistic a word but they persuade each other that not only is their cause just but that this cause will not come to pass in the lives of their children or grandchildren. so it's okay to have setbacks. all that means is you know, we're on the path of god and god will allow this to happen eventually even if it doesn't happen now that doesn't hold tr

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. >> i think when most of us think of gitmo these days, we think of the trial of khalid sheikh mohammedader of the 9/11 attack. i was down in guantanamo for the arraignment in that case, there are big problem dls because this is brand new court system and the military commission, huge problems, it's clear that the suspects would have been much more quickly and fairly convicted had they simply been brought here to manhattan in a regular federal court rather than tried in the brand new procedure down in guantanamo. but the hunger strikers are a different set of people. they're the anonymous people, people from yemen and other countries 40 are not even deemed a threat any more. they can't be sent back because the u.s. government doesn't have enough confidence in the yemeni government to keep tabs on them. they are just sitting in guantanamo endlessly. they don't have a trial coming. they have never been charged, they are sitting there. they're in utter despair. such despair. that they're willing to put up with the horrible force feeding procedures to try to make the point that something ha

incredible right wing backlash they faced in response to their eventually reverse decision to try khalid sheikh mohammedn new york city, a dream beat that sounded something like this. >> this is a very dangerous decision and an irresponsible one. >> it's obvious the 9/11 trials aren't going to be here in new york. >> what we need to do is deny these people a show trial. >> this is a continuation of a long-standing plot by a bunch of left wing lawyers who does not love america who want to undermine our cause in the global war on terror. >> he'll be a rock star in the risen system. >> risking a whole new round of that, this administration deserves support and applause and to know that liberals who stand for the rule of law have their back if and when the right decides to throw a fit about following the constitution. but unfortunately faces like that are not the norm. right now there are three ways the administration deals with who they think are terrorists. there's the program of targeted killing, the subject of a "new york times" blockbuster and the continued ugly spectacle of guantanamo and the prolonge

khalid sheikh mohammed, peethe people who did the 9/11 attack.ll be tried before a military commission, it will take years, but a process is under way for at least the most serious of the people. that's a small number. then you have a much larger number, something li over 8 0, more than half the people there, who have been cleared for release, cleared for transfer. at least to return to their home countries. they haven't been tried for a crime. they've been there for over ten years, that's where you get the civil liberties folks and the people in the white house, who are, who want to close it saying this is where our biggest problem is. these are people we don't have evidence to charge them. >> the second one of them shows up in yemen on the other side involved in a terrorist attack. we say why did we let them go? you idiot, we let them go, we told you they were the enemy. it's a tough one. >> you had a review by an interagency task force, three categories, the high-value detainees, they're being tried by a military commission. you do have the mi

not the high level guys that are never going to get out like khalid sheikh mohammed. we're talking about half the detainee population, 86 have been cleared unanimously by national security agencies for more than three years to be released if security conditions have been met. and the outward flow of those detainees has dried up for several years. that's what is leading to this turmoil and unrest at guantanamo right now. and i think that's currently the issue that is attracting the greatest blowback globally including from the-- recently from the united nations high commissioner for human rights. >> ifill: and part of blowback, part of the upheaval there right now has to do with this hunger strike which is under way. is this what has forced the president to get tough on this issue again? or was this, is this what the administration has been saying quietly all along? >> well, the administration's stated policy has been since obama took office in 2009 that it wants to close guantanamo. but in the face of congressional opposition to its plan to bring the detainees into th

launch you, we have to know that you're willing to self-sacrifice, in the path of allah as khalid sheikh mohammedd, was the most important factor. so i think they would not want to kill themselves immediate i ly. governor ridge knows he set up the whole homeland security department. that may be the reason that handlers in chechnya were saying don't kill yourselves right away because it takes us years to get guys like you, but you have to always be willing to do it. that's how you're controlled. >> tom ridge, there are marathons planned for london. sporting events that have not yet been canceled in boston. clearly they're going to be canceled around the country. major events. we are preparing to be in this for quite a while if they do not capture this man. >> i think that's true. but i listened to an earlier report that said ray kelly identified, i guess they have two races in new york city. you know for sure that between mayor bloomberg and ray kelly and the extraordinary police department up there, they will ramp up security as high as they possibly can. there may be fewer runners, but i dare sa

. >> so when it comes to a trial f for khalid sheikh mohammed, do you care it's civilian trial or istting the trial done. >> we want to get the trial done. but the republicans and the democrats are playing political football with the case instead of thinking of the families. a lot of parents have died off. we have no justice. he's been down there laughing, saying he's proud he killed our loved ones, he's glad i killed the loves ones. he's laughing. we can't bring him back and try him. the federals have tried over 250 terrorists. they've done a great job. everybody is yelling miranda rights, this and that. they're they're playing politics. the federal courts is the better way to do it. >> stay with us. i want to be sure we talk about the other groups of families. also the newtown families, the families in chicago and new orleans, the day-to-day violence and i want to think about how we honor their legacy and memory in terms of the work that we are or are not doing in terms of policymaking. you can reuse almost anything. paper bags. soda bottles handcuffs i'm just saying. so see what y

the mastermind, khalid sheikh mohammed captured in pakistan in march 2003. 10 backpack bombs exploding on four rush hour commuter traipse in madrid. this was march 11th, 04. 191 people were killed. 1800 were injured. at first the bask separate activity group eta is blamed. then investigators find a van with detonators and cassette tapes of the koran at a rail station. that was common it all four targeted trains the first arrests made two days later. 2 1/2 weeks later seven suspects blow themselves up as police move in to arrest them. then the 77 attacks in london in '05. four bombs going off almost simultaneously. three on subway cars. one in a double-decker bus. 52 dead, 700 injured and surveillance video very quickly allowing police to locate the images of those four suicide bombers, all british-born islamist terrorists. they are the key there to the 77 bombings. all that videotape. about 2500 "the hours" worth. as we heard from one of our guests, jon, investigators pouring over whatever images they can get their hands on right now in an attempt to pin down exactly who carried out th

you may remember the furor over trying, potentially trying, khalid sheikh mohammed in this very courthousen had to back down off of that. one family members who supports it jim richards. a retired deputy fire chief of the new york city fire department. his son also named jim was killed on 9/11. richards he says he thinks the gitmo trials are going too slowly and accused terrorists should be put away as possible. >> families here are waiting for justice, craving for just is it. plenty of families in my group want to see the trial. we'll march up manhattan and face his penalty bragging how he was so proud that he killed 3,000 innocent americans. >> reporter: if convicted abu ghaiths could face life, not death, life in prison. back to you. martha: eric, thank you very much. gregg: the family of a murdered texas prosecutor and his wife now speaking out. why they are very angry with law enforcement. and what they could have to say that might have saved their loved ones. martha: plus lost for four days on a hiking trail. now speaking out about his ordeal and he tells us why he never had any doub

khalid sheikh mohammed and a number of other people who are alleged to have helped build the plan to the united states on 9/11. there are a number of other charges, including someone who is alleged to have at orchestrated the attack on uss yemen. they key is that these are defined as war crimes. , nottions of the laws civilian crimes. so the question that dogs them is the weird, half four, half not were status we have, and that has caused problems for military commissions. last year, a conviction was thrown out because it was said that it was not a war crime but a civilian crying. host: can you tell us what these commissions sound like, feel like? take us behind the scenes. guest: there are two courts in guantÁnamo bay. one was created out of a former aircraft control tower. the government spent a couple million dollars to set it up in the mid-2000's. room.a small court there is a very little space between and the attorneys and the witness stand. and the spectators. of course, to be a spectator, you have to get to guantÁnamo, so they are carefully screened, reporters and victim's fam

so the people who have been charged before military commissions are right now khalid sheikh mohammed, a number of other people who are alleged to have helped build the plan to attack the united states on 9/11. there are a number of other charges including someone who's alleged to have orchestrated the attack on the uss cole in 2000 in yemen. and these, and the key for these is that they are defined as war crimes. in other words, violations of the law of war with, not civilian crimes. so the question really for military commissions, and this has continued to sort of dog them, is the weird kind of half war/half not war status that we have, and it's caused some problems for military commissions in the appellate courts, most recently last year when a conviction was thrown out because the appellate court said it wasn't a war crime if it was a civilian crime. >> host: can you give us more of a feel and flavor to what these commissions sound like, feel like? what actually happens? take us behind the scenes. >> guest: sure. well, there are two courtrooms now at guantanamo bay. one was created