and i don't — i don't feel that the, like the temporary discomfort of a person like khalid sheikh mohammedd sheikh mohammed voluntarily decided to attack us. voluntarily decided to attack us a second time. and he's not a us citizen. he wasn't captured inside the united states. he is not really someone who should be given the constitutional rights of an american citizen, right? and so i owe my fellow countrymen more than i owe khalid sheikh mohammed, given that, at any point, he could have simply said "i will tell you and stop the attack". you know, one of the criticisms is that there has not been a safe word. but in fact, there is a safe word, and the safe word is "i'll answer that question". mm. president donald trump, on the campaign trail, said he wanted to bring back waterboarding. what he said is "i'd bring back a hell of a lot worse than water boarding". however, he has since said that he'd go with what his secretary of defence, general mattis, and cia director mike pompeo think. would you like to see waterboarding brought back? because of course, barack obama stopped the enhanced in

he is the man who waterboarded khalid sheikh mohammed. welcome back to the program, james.ere. stuart: what does that supreme court ruling tell you about our democracy and how it works and how it is being, i think maybe used against us? what do you say? >> well i think it points out the importance of the selection of supreme court judges to begin with. let's not lose sight of that. the other thing it does, khalid sheikh mohammed, as you said the mastermind of 9/11, told me that our system liberties and laws were weapons eventually used against those people who kept americans safe in immediate aftermath of 9/11 when there were these catastrophic terror attacks in the works. i think that particular lawsuit, that set of lieutenants that the supreme court just ruled on was an example of that. that is those people could use those laws to punish the people who were trying to protect americans. and i think the ruling adds another layer of protection especially for people that did lawfully within their authorization on extremists. you get these monday morning quarterbacks and look

it's a lesson he learned by interrogating 9/11 mastermind khalid sheikh mohammed abu and others.he book enhanced interrogation dr. james mitchell. good morning, dr. mitchell. >> thank you for having me on. ainsley: you're welcome. what did ksm say to you when you were intier gating him? >> one of the things he said to me is that we lack the political will, the motivation and will to do the things that must be done to stop in part pause we he wanted the whole world to like us and we were afraid of criticism. he said that our freedoms were and civil liberties were weapons that allah had placed on this planet so that it would be easier for them to defeat us. as we talked about radicalization, he scoffed at the idea really that we were going to be able to prevent that. in part because of our religious freedom and because of the political correctness that acts as a cloaking device. his point, i think, to paraphrase what he was saying is that under the guise of political freedom, people who want to destroy us can come to our country, they can set up mosques, they can spread their jihad