characterization khalid sheikh muhammad. the basque crucial probe if you will of intelligence program it was a legal program not torture and there we go the former vice president saying that the united states should keep on using methods like waterboarding to get information we're going to explore what some call and enhanced interrogation techniques and others call torture. he didn't want to. hear for the release. of the iraqi people are ready for american troops to go home why does the united states insist on overseeing its bottom. immigration and been logons death may be dominating news headlines but with less than one week left until the u.s. runs up against its fourteen point three trillion dollars debt limit we decided to begin our newscast this evening with a look at america's financial health now u.s. economic performance does seem to be in freefall as public debt. deficits computer soar and little class is more at risk than ever meanwhile realistic solutions from washington are frankly nowhere to be seen now it's dif

was a surrogate for khalid sheikh muhammad but the vast treasure probe if you will of the culture it was a good program it was a legal program it's not torture so he's basically saying that the united states should keep using methods like waterboarding to get information we're going to explore what some called enhanced interrogation techniques and what others call torture. you really want to go out and we stayed there for the really that's not democracy that the iraqi people are ready for american troops to permanently have new why is it that the united states insists and overstayed his welcome. welcome back it's tuesday may tenth i'm lucy catherine of good reporting here from washington d.c. and of course you're watching our t.v. now the obama administration has paid a lot of lip service to the importance of democracy especially when it comes to some of the uprisings that we've seen in the middle east but as our. reports the united states is willing to support self-determination abroad as long as a doesn't get away with strategic goals it will. she is the country clothed in stars an

for the staircase of khalid sheikh muhammad but if that's true for proof if you will of intelligence it was a good program it was a legal program it's not torture so is he saying the u.s. should keep using methods like waterboarding to get information we're going to explore what some call enhanced interrogation techniques and others call torture. good evening it's tuesday may tenth four pm here in washington d.c. lucy catherine of you watching our team. now immigration and bin laden's death may be dominating news headlines but with less than one week left until the u.s. runs up against those fourteen point three trillion dollar debt limit we decided to begin our newscast this evening with a look at america's financial health the u.s. economic performance does seem to be in freefall as public debt and deficits continue to soar the middle class is more at risk than ever meanwhile the list exclusions from washington are frankly nowhere to be seen now it's difficult to overstate just how serious the u.s. debt issue is but sometimes it does take a little bit of a fresh perspective to real

we have learned according to my sources that the courier was a protege of khalid sheikh muhammad, andn intelligence officials interview detainees about some of the names of the couriers who might actually be aiding osama bin laden, some of the detainees conceivably ksm held out on them, and by holding out, the intelligence agency figures, you know, this guy is probably something, and the problem is that, wolf, they only knew his nickname. they didn't know his real name, but it was considered high-value information so they press and trailed him in classic espionage, and classic work, and they learned his name from a different part of the world and they tracked him around. they could not follow him around and they had a sighting of him, so they set up an elaborate surveillance effort that led them in august of 2010 to that compound and one of my sources said to me, when we saw that compound, we said, wow. this is different. and then leon panetta the cia director said to them, i want a body count of everybody who lives there, and who they are and where they are sleeping. it was a courier

custody, the hunches taken from interrogations with 9/11 mastermind khalid sheikh mohammed and the so-called 20th hijacker, muhammad al kahtani. today, real questions and concerns remain about the united states' relationship with pakistan. >> i'm quite certain that the administration along with the pakistanis wants to understand why osama bin laden could be so close to islamabad, really in plain sight. that's not good for us and that's not good for pakistan. >> nbc's michael isikoff is live in washington, d.c. now. so, michael, what are we learning about the intelligence trail that led to bin laden? >> well, we're learning bits and pieces and more and more every day and almost every hour right now. and the narratives are shifting. you know, there are some people out there like vice president cheney and others who are suggesting yesterday that it was enhanced interrogation techniques such as waterboarding that led to the discovery of the courier who was -- who led us to bin laden. and that was the key break in the case. in fact, in further reporting, by myself and others, the trail is a bit more tangled than that, a