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with khartoum. i think one of the issues in the negotiation in doha is the operation between darfur and the center. these issue of darfur being one region, or one region or many regions. then there is a very close tie between popular concertation and the constitutional review process. popular concertation in the blue nile has taken place. there is no negotiation yet between the state and the center of government. the government of blue nile is the pretty similar to intervene. and to have press the center of government to start these negotiations. we permit to him that we indeed with this matter in the south sudan, as i said earlier, popular consultation has not stabbed it. but i think the end of the game is the same. once it's a completed, it will be a negotiation between the state and the center of government to try to see what kind of relationship. and i think the constitutional review is also tackled. these matter, for example, the governor of blue nile is saying clearly that he would like to see

government is willing to give to the two parties and khartoum. would you agree on that and my second question is about darfur, just a follow-up question. i think i understand that how we would have a peace process in darfur knowing the situation is not right. what needs to happen in darfur between now and july in order for us to have credible -- do you have any conditions for improvement in the security situation? >> pass it down here. >> first question, could you repeat the first question? >> i am saying that they -- is very much influenced by the u.s. relationship with the two parties and what are you willing to give to the two parties? [inaudible] >> final question. >> christina murray from the university of cape town. i wanted to go back firstly to the darfur issue. i understand that the khartoum government has recently announced a referendum for darfur. and secondly has also proposed introducing and creating two new states in darfur. i wondered if you could comment how you think that fits into the other processes relating to peace in darfur?

in khartoum they have begun to talk about the constitutional review. had to go about the constitution for the post independence of the south. and the issue of darfur. the other matter we have been dealing with is to try to implement the report on darfur in 2009. the situation has not made a lot of progress. the negotiation has been going on until now. we have tried to start the political process. it is a lot of discussion how to coordinate. we of had discussions with the u.s. government especially. we hope we are finding the way. we hope that those two tracks will lead to peace in pardarfur. we see that darfur, it is having a negative impact on the whole of sudan. for example, on the issue of debt, one of the obstacles to solving this issue is the sanction, the u.s. sanction of sudan, because of the war in darfur. when we are talking about the fundamental principle in our negotiations between the south and north, it is the principle of two viable states. making the number bible, -- north viable, darfur is an obstacle. it is also an obstacle in the cons

than union leaders but definitely one and we have to look at khartoum to see chinese investment in africa and get out he was one person who for all is privatization and later suddenly coming back to the western fold he still didn't like africa only american defense network in germany regarding africa some people would say that china ironically has some some colliding ambitions as it were when it comes to libya because bahrain and saudi are currently in the throes of demonstrations not covered on western corporate media and ironically china needs a stable saudi arabia and bahrain for its own energy needs so u.s. interests and trainees interests are one in the same to a degree according to one national security agency advisor dawn when he said the reason we went into libya one factor was we had to get out of it could no longer be leader and it would look to iran is if we make threats that we don't follow through on. also ahead for you this out of course is that behind the uprisings which is the u.s. state funded organizations sponsored revolts in the arab world we hear why there's no cash t

washington i'd say rather more than european union leaders but definitely one only has to look at khartoum to see chinese investment in africa and gaddafi was one person who for all his privatization and later suddenly coming back to the western fold he still didn't like african american defense network now a good hit in germany regarding africa and he didn't really like the u.s. dollar and what is going to currency for the continent of africa we have to wait and see to find out but if china does have significant interests in libya why didn't it veto that u.n. resolution on a no fly zone in order to protect its interests do you think it's rapidly becoming a mystery to quite a few people why russia and china decided to abstain in u.n. security council resolution one hundred seventy three i think some people would say that china ironically has some some colliding ambitions as it were when it comes to libya because bahrain and saudi are currently in the throes of demonstrations not covered on western corporate media and ironically china needs a stable saudi arabia and bahrain for its own ener

washington i would say rather more than the european union leaders but definitely one only has to look at khartoum to see chinese investment in africa and get after it was one person who for all its privatization and later suddenly coming back to the western fold he still didn't like africa calmly american defense network. in germany regarding africa and many people say that china of course is going to be the new. chinese investment in iran totals some one hundred sixty five billion dollars or so it is rapidly finding problems of un resolutions regarding iran so in that case beijing and washington's interests coincide i think there has been a cold war since the second world war with china arguably it is certainly arching up but the state department the think tanks on capitol hill don't seem to understand what to do according to one national security agency advisor donnelly he said the reason we went into libya one factor was we had to get out of it could no longer be leader and it would look to iran as if we make threats that we don't follow through on. journalist asked in return see that coming u

worrying washington i'd say rather more than european union leaders definitely only has a look at khartoum to see trainee's investment in africa he was one person who for all his privatization and later suddenly coming back to the question he still didn't like african american defense network some people would say that china ironically has some colliding ambitions as it were when it comes to libya because bahrain and saudi are currently in the throes of demonstrations not covered on western corporate media and ironically china needs a stable saudi arabia and bahrain for its own energy needs so u.s. interests and chinese interests are one in the same to a degree. and experts at the international monetary fund's predict the north africa conflict could herald yet another global economic downturn stating the consequences for us. america's financial management is best defined by a nonstop borrowing binge see that over there it's a running ticker of u.s. debt. well take a close look at the dark financial forecast for america later this hour. and it's a year since millions of barrels of oil spill

worrying washington it's a rather more than european union leaders definitely one only has to look at khartoum to see chinese investment in africa and get out he was one person who for all its privatization and later suddenly coming back to the western fold he still didn't like african american defense network some people would say that china ironically has some. colliding ambitions as it were when it comes to libya because bahrain and saudi are currently in the throes of demonstrations not covered on western corporate media and ironically china needs a stable saudi arabia and bahrain for its own energy needs so u.s. interests and chinese interests are one in the same to a degree. and international monetary fund experts fear conflict in africa may trigger a new economic downturn which would be devastating for the u.s. . america's financial management is best defined by a nonstop borrowing binge see over there it's a running ticker of u.s. debt we explore the grim financial forecast for america later in the front. but first a year after being a tourist oil spill in the gulf of mexico those impl

have 240 companies and each company has three to four outposts if they go all the way down to the khartoum level. we have a dozen outposts now in afghanistan. there were 7000 pashtun villages. and that 100,000 we are only taking one seventh. so even if we did it right, i look at the arithmetic and go while, the arithmetic is overwhelming. >> if were not protect in the population and he pointed out the elusiveness of the taliban, how will you find them to them. >> i think that comes down to something we americans cannot do. we haven't been able to do it. the average sees the taliban and only three in the year and he may get one or two shot in the entire year. they are not massing. that's why set it's like fighting the apaches. we have thousands of american soldiers in the west running around. we're not going to change that. we cannot. the issue becomes whether the afghans themselves can do it. before we try them, we won't know. i'm not sure any choice is going to work. i'm pretty confident it will work because i don't believe they can mass. until we actually see the afghans doing the job fo

it means that khartoum takes the responsibility to deal with old debt of the sudan, and the two parties then agree to a make a joint advocacy for debt relief. here in washington, it has been one of our main -- currency, debt, with imf, world bank, creditors of sudan. things are moving in the right direction. the other remaining issue is what the sudanese parties call the financial transition .rrangement an in other words, how to share oil revenue after independence of the south. related to these, what will be the ownership -- >> we have lost our signal from the discussion this afternoon at the u.s. institute of peace on the southern sudan. we apologize for that, and we're looking into the problem. hopefully we will resolve the problem shortly. the discussion expected to run until 3:30. we hope to have it fixed soon here on c-span. we are working on our video from the u.s. institute of peace, and while we wait for that to get resolved, he was one of our studentcam winners -- here is one of our studentcam winners. >> this year's studentcam competition asks students across the country to c

in khartoum, the have to think about the constitutional review and how to adapt the constitution for both the independence of the south. ofn there's also the issue darfur. the other matter we have been dealing with is to try and --plement the report remain do we made on darfur in 2009. that situation has not made a lot of progress. the discussion is gone what have we discussed? we've tried to start a political process and there's a lot of discussion on how to coordinate with therefore and it has been the center of the discussions that we have had with the u.s. government especially. we hope we are finding the way maybe to help the process, but we are hoping these talks will lead to peace in darfur. it is the help of the agency to have peace in darfur. we see the lack of peace is having a negative impact on the world the sudan. for example, one of the obstacles to solve this issue are and the u.s. sanctions against saddam because of the war in-- against sudan because of the wars in darfur. the fundamental principle in our negotiations between the south and north of is the principle of

by understand the khartoum government has announced a referendum for the four -- for darfur. it has suggested creating two new states in darfur. can you comment on how that fits into the other processes related to peace in darfur? on the issue of blue nile, this is more a comment than a question. it is for you to comment on, please. i am puzzled by the claim being made by the government of blue nile. the interim constitution of sudan gives significant and strikingly substantial powers to the states in the north. i wonder how you understand the relationship between the current constitutional position and the claims being made at the moment. >> with regards to the last question, the point made by the governor of. nbrunei was what he said. in terms of the constitution, they have the power that addresses the issue of autonomy and all of that. in practice, it is not working. for instance, the issue of giving sufficient resources under the control of the states of the state is able to take decisions in the exercise of autonomy. that is not happening. that is the issue you are raisi