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a number of the very important issues between south sudan and sudan and the khartoum government still need to be worked through for example only about eighty percent of the border has been delineated then there is the question of how the oil revenue is going to be shared what arrangements there going to be for export in the oil most of which goes out through port sudan which is in the north and then there is the nationality question what do you do about people from the south who live in the north and vice versa these are important issues left over from the comprehensive peace agreement that have not yet been resolved and then there is the question of the south sudan's own institutional development one of the things we have seen is that in countries which have enormous amounts of oil there are is heavy institutional stress how in other words do you make best use of the oil revenue and prevent it from essential going into the pockets of a few corrupt individuals ok i don't really know and i'd like to bring in jonathan here i mean we've heard a lot it looks like this is a new state built
a number of the very important issues between south sudan and sudan and the khartoum government still need to be worked through for example only about eighty percent of the border has been delineated then there is the question of how the oil revenue is going to be shared what arrangements there going to be for export in the oil most of which goes out through port sudan which is in the north and then there is the nationality question what do you do about people from the south who live in the...
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and there are others in khartoum who are not happy. about south sudan becoming independent not least because of the or there is a kind of mantra that you can sometimes hear in khartoum to the effect of that he sure has lost south sudan bushehr has failed to end the crisis in darfur and bashir is approach to the opposition in khartoum. is repressive so bashir is not a totally independent actor enormous ok jonathan when you think about i mean when that when the noise seize all this oil and i could point out i mean right now the oil does go through the north for exports so i mean there is some kind of interdependence already built into this relationship irrespective of attitudes political attitudes about the independence of the new state. and this is why the oil is actually a positive factor in terms of north-south relations in some ways because there is such mutual dependence between the north in the south in order for both of them to get their oil revenue the south gets about ninety eight percent of its revenue from oil almost all of th
and there are others in khartoum who are not happy. about south sudan becoming independent not least because of the or there is a kind of mantra that you can sometimes hear in khartoum to the effect of that he sure has lost south sudan bushehr has failed to end the crisis in darfur and bashir is approach to the opposition in khartoum. is repressive so bashir is not a totally independent actor enormous ok jonathan when you think about i mean when that when the noise seize all this oil and i...
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they have not been directly under the rule of khartoum.ople say not enough has changed over the last six years. there has been an incredible amount of oil money available here in the south. maybe people want more changes. i think there will be more money available from the oil. more of it will be there for the government in the south to use. but they do have to export it through the north and they have to work get a deal about how much money they will hand over to khartoum to use that pipeline. in the short term very little will change for the people in the south. it could take a generation, or several, to address the problems this new country now faces. the health indicators, for example, are nothing short of staggering. one in seven children does not live to see their fifth birthday. there are huge security problems across the south. different rebellions are popping up. and there is still a lot of worry about the north/south border. it is rich in oil and some people still think there may be a fight for control of the oil between the nort
they have not been directly under the rule of khartoum.ople say not enough has changed over the last six years. there has been an incredible amount of oil money available here in the south. maybe people want more changes. i think there will be more money available from the oil. more of it will be there for the government in the south to use. but they do have to export it through the north and they have to work get a deal about how much money they will hand over to khartoum to use that pipeline....
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they have not been directly under the rule of khartoum.ople say not enough has changed over the last six years. there has been an incredible amount of oil money available here in the south. maybe people want more changes. i think there will be more money available from the oil. more of it will be there for the government in the south to use. but they do have to export it through the north and they have to work get a deal about how much money they will hand over to khartoum to use that pipeline. in the short term very little will change for the people in the south. it could take a generation, or several, to address the problems this new country now faces. the health indicators, for example, are nothing short of staggering. one in seven children does not live to see their fifth birthday. there are huge security problems across the south. different rebellions are popping up. and there is still a lot of worry about the north/south border. it is rich in oil and some people still think there may be a fight for control of the oil between the nort
they have not been directly under the rule of khartoum.ople say not enough has changed over the last six years. there has been an incredible amount of oil money available here in the south. maybe people want more changes. i think there will be more money available from the oil. more of it will be there for the government in the south to use. but they do have to export it through the north and they have to work get a deal about how much money they will hand over to khartoum to use that pipeline....
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>> i think khartoum is not yet ready to create an atmosphere of real freedom inside darfur. you could have a real political pr process there. we've had occasions in the past where people speak up, and then they are arrested. now, they just released political prisoners yesterday, but there are more so people have to feel that if they speak out in some kind of a domestic political process, they're not going to be ha rased or -- ha rased or -- harassed or jailed. that's not something you create overnight. you create it and watch it happen. they have to lift the state of emergency. they said they will, we'll see, but until you have that environment, it's hard to say that you can have a really effective darfur base political process. >> there are somewhat masters of their destiny if they would wake up and realize that. >> they are. they are. there are movements fighting, but they have a lot of opportunity to create an environment that's very different in darfur. >> as i said in my opening remarks, thank you for your service and thank you for being here today. >> thank you, senato
>> i think khartoum is not yet ready to create an atmosphere of real freedom inside darfur. you could have a real political pr process there. we've had occasions in the past where people speak up, and then they are arrested. now, they just released political prisoners yesterday, but there are more so people have to feel that if they speak out in some kind of a domestic political process, they're not going to be ha rased or -- ha rased or -- harassed or jailed. that's not something you...
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there is also issues about oil sharing, things that northern president bashir in khartoum really has help address before this -- these two nations are really at peace. i think you'll see the united states working intensively between the north and the south to see them working out these issues so that they could be at peace because that's really going to be seen as key in terms of helping stand-up south sueden. >> tell me about the terror lift and how it relates to khartoum. >> well, sudan has been on a state sponsors of terrorism list for many years. there was talk with the sudanese government in khartoum over the last several months that there is a road map that they had to follow in terms to get off the terrorism list. a lot of it has to do with these things that i mentioned. demilitarization, making sure that the border is demarked, oil sharing, these type of things that president bashir cooperated with this referendum, cooperated with the declaration of independence and he was there in juba and the u.s. is saying that's good step. but other issues, until he helped with the fighti
there is also issues about oil sharing, things that northern president bashir in khartoum really has help address before this -- these two nations are really at peace. i think you'll see the united states working intensively between the north and the south to see them working out these issues so that they could be at peace because that's really going to be seen as key in terms of helping stand-up south sueden. >> tell me about the terror lift and how it relates to khartoum. >> well,...
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the main condition is khartoum is not ready to be a player in doing that. >> i think khartoum is not ready to create an atmosphere of real freedom inside darfur so you could have a real political process. we have had cases in the past where people speak up and are arrested. they released some political prisoners yesterday. people have to feel that if they speak out in some sort of domestic political process they won't be jailed or something. that is something you don't just do overnight. you prove it by creating an atmosphere people can watch and see it happen. we don't have that yet. they have to lift the state of emergency. until you have that environment it is hard to say you have a really effective darfur based political process. >> they are masters of their own destiny if they wake up and realize that. >> they are. they have these armed movement fighting but they have a lot of opportunity to create an environment that is very different in darfur. >> thank you for being here today. >> thanks. >> senator isakson and senator udall. >> i want to thank you, ambassador lyman, for your
the main condition is khartoum is not ready to be a player in doing that. >> i think khartoum is not ready to create an atmosphere of real freedom inside darfur so you could have a real political process. we have had cases in the past where people speak up and are arrested. they released some political prisoners yesterday. people have to feel that if they speak out in some sort of domestic political process they won't be jailed or something. that is something you don't just do overnight....
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the khartoum government. can all of the people with guns stayed united or will different rebel groups pop-up? like this group, last week declared war in the south. clashes between tribes are common. the border area is rich in oil. just inside the north, the president's warplanes dropped bombs to crush a rebellion. the fear is that instead of sharing the oil, the countries would keep fighting for more. >> people have suffered for too long. this is in the interest of the north for the south to be in peace. for the survival of the two states, it is essential that we maintain this. >> the struggle for southern independence is over. the struggle for peace is beginning. >> atlantis has blown off on the last mission of the shuttle program. four astronauts are on board along with supplies for the international space station. our science correspondent watched the final lift off of cape canaveral. >> cheers for a moment of history. four astronauts about to fly on the final space station. the launch pad is fueled and re
the khartoum government. can all of the people with guns stayed united or will different rebel groups pop-up? like this group, last week declared war in the south. clashes between tribes are common. the border area is rich in oil. just inside the north, the president's warplanes dropped bombs to crush a rebellion. the fear is that instead of sharing the oil, the countries would keep fighting for more. >> people have suffered for too long. this is in the interest of the north for the south...
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it also means they have to balance their relationship between khartoum and juba. they are not inclined to trade, but realize they need to have good relations with both. that gives them a take in seeing some of the conflicts involved and not have instability or conflict between the two. we talk about that a lot together. >> last year we spent as the united states approximately $1.5 billion, including half a billion for peace keeping in the sudan situation generally. what is your estimate of whether these sums are likely to be larger or will it be request by the administration for more than one and a half billion in the coming year or -- can you give us any benchmarks as our whole budgetary situation as you recall is tense elsewhere. but sudan, it's important. what would you predict in that area? >> well, i realize that we have one of the largest combination of peace keeping operations in sudan in any place in the world. we have the combineed u.n.a.u. forth in darfur, and in south sudan, it's peace keeping, but a lot of assistance to creating a viable government and
it also means they have to balance their relationship between khartoum and juba. they are not inclined to trade, but realize they need to have good relations with both. that gives them a take in seeing some of the conflicts involved and not have instability or conflict between the two. we talk about that a lot together. >> last year we spent as the united states approximately $1.5 billion, including half a billion for peace keeping in the sudan situation generally. what is your estimate...
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and that also means they have to balance the relationships between khartoum and juba. they are not inclined to trade one for another. but they do realize that they need to good relations with both. and that gives them a stake in seeing some of these conflicts resolved and not having instability or conflict between the two. we talk about that a lot together. >> last year we spent approximately $1.5 billion, including half a billion dollars for peacekeeping in the sudan situation generally. what is your estimate of whether these sums are likely to be larger, or will it be a request by the administration for more than one an and a half a billion the coming year? can you give us any benchmarks of our whole budgetary situation as you recall, is tense elsewhere but sudan is important. what would you predict in this area? >> well, i realize that we have one of the largest combination of peacekeeping operations in sudan than anyplace in the world. we have the combined force in darfur, and we have a new mission in south sudan which is not so much -- partly peacekeeping but it's
and that also means they have to balance the relationships between khartoum and juba. they are not inclined to trade one for another. but they do realize that they need to good relations with both. and that gives them a stake in seeing some of these conflicts resolved and not having instability or conflict between the two. we talk about that a lot together. >> last year we spent approximately $1.5 billion, including half a billion dollars for peacekeeping in the sudan situation generally....
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this area is home to muslims and christians opposed to the khartoum government fighting against discrimination and strict islamic law. here they show off weapons they say were captured from government forces. recent peace talks trays possibility of a cease-fire, but the sudanese president al basheer has called for the army to continue the operation in this oil-rich state. as the aerial bombardments continue, the nuba people keep running for cover. will ross, "bbc news." >> there are reports from syria saying troops backed by tanks continue to surround the city of hamas the biggest city in protest of the government. al activists say at least 14 people were killed by security forces on tuesday and they are trying to -- the residents are trying to prevent a armored vehicles from coming in the area. >> and freeping host one of europe's biggest fashion gatherings, this is beryl lynn's fashion week getting under way. >> the brandenburg gate is preparing to attract a whole new type of tourist, fashion insistas are coming here and bringing berlin fashion week with them. >> after the success of this, t
this area is home to muslims and christians opposed to the khartoum government fighting against discrimination and strict islamic law. here they show off weapons they say were captured from government forces. recent peace talks trays possibility of a cease-fire, but the sudanese president al basheer has called for the army to continue the operation in this oil-rich state. as the aerial bombardments continue, the nuba people keep running for cover. will ross, "bbc news." >> there...
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africa and it is the source of the nile river and so watter is as important to now northern sudan khartoum area as it is a country the size of the state of texas and what would and what was also said to us what was also said to us is that it will be the easiest country to do business in as long as it is mutually beneficial people who will go to south sudan thinking that they can take advantage of these individuals need to think again they made sure we understood that it had to be mutually beneficial after twenty three. wars two point three million people guy but here made it very clear even right there in front of bashir we were marginalized we were discriminated against we we were enslaved i think he showed photographs we now see people have been taken slaves years ago are now being told ok you've got a new country go back home to south sudan and it is it was an amazing trip very few people i think in our generation get a chance to see a new country and i wish you had been there because i think you would have appreciated like we all did thank you for bringing the story back while saying y
africa and it is the source of the nile river and so watter is as important to now northern sudan khartoum area as it is a country the size of the state of texas and what would and what was also said to us what was also said to us is that it will be the easiest country to do business in as long as it is mutually beneficial people who will go to south sudan thinking that they can take advantage of these individuals need to think again they made sure we understood that it had to be mutually...
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khartoum sudan got one detail on stage last year getting off to flawless star these time around it truly amazing excuse in the preliminary round the russian game the decisive died with heat delete one of the moves difficult can the nations today at bedtime stand cold by two in the house oversold and wonder how twists. extreme choice. a few mistakes in the air along with too much splash living there for only sneak in second position. next to the folder and demand the drug waiting to see found the englishman found to be untouchable the day security's third stage when the new roof extend the full world lead. the get it done for the sport with the highest degree of difficulty is famous truth was in the twenty six year old makes it look easy. a static i kind of thought i'd blown lost on just landed shore vertical wasn't fast enough. seems it was enough to take the when it's very good competition for me. i'm the troll really good dive today i made one mistake in my last dive it's a very difficult dive i know it it's risky for me i'm sick i'm in this here will have to work stalls and i want i a
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i've argued in the supreme court that hitch rakes from cairo to khartoum. as counsel to presidents, served as the first leg of the massachusetts on my first time running for office. but as i reflect on each of these experiences, each has its roots in the lessons i try to write about in this book. these lessons have given me a sense of the possible and that has made all the difference. i write in the book about the transition from the southside of chicago to milton academy, the experience of trying to bridge these very different world, were each one seemed to demand that you reject the other as the price of acceptance in the one and how important it was for me to understand ultimately that was a false choice. i writes about the ways the old ladies in big cat in church back home taught me to see faith is not so much what you say you believe, that how you live. i read about the extraordinary courage and strength of my wife, diane commit to her first marriage to an abusive husband and i told my early days in public office took her and how her triumph has streng
i've argued in the supreme court that hitch rakes from cairo to khartoum. as counsel to presidents, served as the first leg of the massachusetts on my first time running for office. but as i reflect on each of these experiences, each has its roots in the lessons i try to write about in this book. these lessons have given me a sense of the possible and that has made all the difference. i write in the book about the transition from the southside of chicago to milton academy, the experience of...
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people there voted overwhelmingly to separate the government in khartoum. >>> and in los angeles, itof the duke and duchess of cambridge touring tinseltown. plenty of sightseeing and hand shaking for the recently married couple. today the prince is set to play in a charity polo match. >>> want to take you live now to washington, where the dalai lama has taken the stage. you're looking at it as it is happening. he is there to promote world peace. >>> two, one, zero, and liftoff! the final liftoff of "atlantis," on the shoulders of the space shuttle, america will continue the dream. >> what a sight to see. that was yesterday as the shuttle "atlantis" races towards the international space station one last time. we can't help but wonder, what is next? everyday citizens maybe going into space? our john zarrella says it's not all that farfetchor arfetchefar. >> reporter: elan mosque runs spacex. richard branson heads virginia galactic. both are using their considerable wealth to back bold attempts to make space travel as routine as boarding an airplane. >> people used to say to me, look, i
people there voted overwhelmingly to separate the government in khartoum. >>> and in los angeles, itof the duke and duchess of cambridge touring tinseltown. plenty of sightseeing and hand shaking for the recently married couple. today the prince is set to play in a charity polo match. >>> want to take you live now to washington, where the dalai lama has taken the stage. you're looking at it as it is happening. he is there to promote world peace. >>> two, one, zero,...
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manning gives it three to four pages of detail because malcolm wrote articles from khartoum, from saudi arabia, the bureau of special services and fbi documented this trip. while he was in egypt he met with anwar sadat who was not yet -- and this was before he became president. nasser invited him to a meeting. he said, i'll hold on that, you should meet with elijah mohamed first. he writes this article in the pittsburgh courier about all of these connections he's make anything 1959 while still in the nation of islam. fast forward to 1964 when he's traveling, guess who he begins writing? guess who he begins contacting? the people that he met in 1959. so this is the kind of work that is done in this book. so you get a fuller sense that what happens in 1964 doesn't come out of nowhere, it comes out of this longer engagement malcolm had with the muslim world. now, as to the, um, the human side of malcolm, you know, malcolm, um, most of us who have studied malcolm, read his autobiography, read his speeches or listened to his speeches captivating -- one of the best speakers of the 20th centur
manning gives it three to four pages of detail because malcolm wrote articles from khartoum, from saudi arabia, the bureau of special services and fbi documented this trip. while he was in egypt he met with anwar sadat who was not yet -- and this was before he became president. nasser invited him to a meeting. he said, i'll hold on that, you should meet with elijah mohamed first. he writes this article in the pittsburgh courier about all of these connections he's make anything 1959 while still...
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i've argued in the supreme court, hitchhiked from cairo to khartoum, counsel to presidents can assert is the first black governor of massachusetts on may 1st time running for office. as i reflect on each of these experiences, each has its roots in the lessons that i try to read about in this book. these lessons have given me a sense of the possible and that is they know the difference. i write in the book about the train haitian in the southside of chicago tuneup academy about the dancer trying to bridge these very different world, where each one seemed to demand that you reject the other as the price of acceptance in the one and how important it was for me to understand ultimately focuses of choice. i read about the review of ladies in big cat in church.com taught me to see faith is not so much what you say you believe that how you live. i learned about today and to her first searched her husband and it's a merely decent public office took on her and how her triumph in strength and not just me, but thousands of others. time and time again, experiences with great trial and even turmoi
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two decades of wanton violence, rape, torture and hunger, systematically imposed upon them by the khartoum. mr. smith: four million people displaced and countless families disamated. the comprehensive peace agreement of 2005 ended the war and put south sudan on the path to nationhood. tomorrow in the people of south sudan emerge as the newest nation on earth. tomorrow when that dream is realized, americans will join the people of south sudan in celebrating this extraordinary hope-filled event. yet, recently at least 100,000 sudanese have been displaced from one area and tens of thousands of southerners living in another state have been recently forced from their homes, some of them murdered. so there are serious remaining challenges. nevertheless, we hope and we pray that the people of south sudan will finally live in peace, respect for their basic human rights and freedom. yield back the balance. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from colorado. >> i ask permission to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pr
two decades of wanton violence, rape, torture and hunger, systematically imposed upon them by the khartoum. mr. smith: four million people displaced and countless families disamated. the comprehensive peace agreement of 2005 ended the war and put south sudan on the path to nationhood. tomorrow in the people of south sudan emerge as the newest nation on earth. tomorrow when that dream is realized, americans will join the people of south sudan in celebrating this extraordinary hope-filled event....
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is doing, anyone going, any concerns about what the khartoum might try to pull? >> we are obviously planning to send a u.s. delegation to to the independents and not in a position to announce that delegation yet. i do hope when we do announce it in the next couple of days, i do hope to get a briefing for you from those folks. more generally, let me say the envoy continues to work with the parties in the lead-up to july 9 and we welcome commitments over the weekend by both president bashir and the vice president that they are going to continue to negotiate on the outstanding issues after july 9. what we have been saying, what the ambassador and secretary has been saying to the parties, it's now time to set a firm deadline for those additional issues to be concluded after july 9. >> has there been a decision how the u.s. will have diplomatic delegation inside sudan? >> we will have more to say on that at the end of the week. anybody else? >> will there be a separate ambassador? >> we'll have more to say on that more towards the end of the week, but we are looking f
is doing, anyone going, any concerns about what the khartoum might try to pull? >> we are obviously planning to send a u.s. delegation to to the independents and not in a position to announce that delegation yet. i do hope when we do announce it in the next couple of days, i do hope to get a briefing for you from those folks. more generally, let me say the envoy continues to work with the parties in the lead-up to july 9 and we welcome commitments over the weekend by both president bashir...