director of the memorial complex khatyn zelsky artur garevich, and we will probably talk with you ont topics that interest both us and the audience program. say, don't be silent in the studio victoria popova and tatyana shcherbina and today our guest is arthur zelsky. good afternoon. good afternoon. glad to see you again in our studio. we saw each other almost 2 years ago. here and then a lot was said about the horrors of the war and reviewed this record of our today's meeting. she was convinced that at that time we did not even suspect that she could come so close to our borders, what do you think about this situation of yours, what is war? it was literally hundreds of kilometers from us. again once again proves that history makes somersaults that are not even dreamed of in a nightmare from the other side. there is nothing accidental in history and everything is natural. what is happening is the consequences of the collapse of the soviet union and a. its collapse, too, in fact , was the same regularity as the collapse of the russian empire of all other empires in the world. but what