it's head, khodokorsk spent ten years in jail before being parred by president putt no on one 2013putin in in 2013. is this a fair ruling? >> well, russia sees this as a political decision. it comes during a time when anti-russian campaign is being basically promoted by the united states. the court and the hague are basically, it's very strange that the court in the hague is looking into this whole issue. the amount that the shareholders wanted initially is $120 billion. all of these amounts are plucked from the sky. there is no basic set of explanation why thigh these amounts are demanded. the court has made its ruling on the base of the energy charter, which has not been rectified by the russian parliament so iraq does not abide by this charter. i do not see how this is going to happen in practice. >> assuming that russia is in the wrong here. it said that it has evaded taxes. but of course there is a very different story. >> obviously there are differing opinions from when it all happened, but i don't think the prosecutors at the time handled the case in the best possible way. but on