to ask you a question you are contrasting the activism of ayatollah khomeini in the revolution with the normal shia you describe him as being a steady rebuke to the establishment at one point, but surely the rise of lebanon, the rise of the lebanese shia that predated hezbollah and the irony in influence, the rise of sheik mohammed, who led a strong movement that had their roots among shia across the arab world would argue a little against that. there is a lot of dynamism not necessarily i iranian but looking as we tended to do how would you react to that? >> guest: i think that is correct in terms of the shia rye is. certainly they downgraded the downtrodden dismiss within of the muslim world for generations going back centuries and centuries come and that rye is was sensible early on time and even before the iranian revolution. but what has happened was the parallel with the nationalists it goes on. >> host: these movements that should be one of three for more progress get taken over by radicals in the case of the shia rise by a revolutionary iran that is the revolutionary in the sens

just to ask you a question, you're contrasting the activism of the khomeini and iranian revolution tomal mainstream shiaism. you describe him as a city rebuke to the iranian establishment at one point. but surely the rise the rise of sadr and the shia that predated iranian influence, the rise of sheik mohammed who led a strong shia movement that had roots amongst shia across the arab world would argue a little bit against that, among shia i talked to there's often a view the ayatollah of naja are pretty sleepy old fellows but there's dynamism in the world and looking to sistani, and some younger people is wise. how would you react to that? >> i think that that's correct in terms of shia rise. the shia certainly downgraded the downtrodden, dismissed within the muslim world for generations and generations. i point to it going back centuries and centuries. and that rise was detectable fairly early on and certainly before the iranian revolution. but what has happened here is that and perhaps a parallel with the baathist nationalists it goes wrong. these movements that should be one of ref

east, they are learning from what happened in iran in 1979, iranian's protested and got ayatollah khomeini instead. >> we wanted freedom and allah, the religious fanatics take over. don't let that happen to you. >> gary lane cbn news. >> we are learning more about the pressure in iran, a pastor could be executed. iranian court has upheld the death sentence of 34-year-old usef. the house church pastor arrested in october 2009 after he protested a government decision forcing christian school children to be taught islam. joining us now from oklahoma is todd meddleton, what else can you tell us about pastor usef? >> this man went to the islamic school and said listen i understand all the families have been given instruction. my children should be given christian instruction not according to islam. that put him on the radar of the authorities, subsequently arrested him, accused him and found guilty and sentenced to die for that crime. >> todd, no pastor has been executed in iran. what are the chances that the iranian government will carry this out? >> that is the million dollar question. it has

he was a legendary field officer when khomeini came in and stationed in berlin during of the cold war. he ran the cia war against the russians in afghanistan and was the one in charge of the arms and one of the most remarkable stories is that when he was in iran when khomeini took over, the revolutionary guard found him shortly after he was pacing of a double agent for police said he shot him to death and they are well on their way and he pulled a gun and killed them both and on his way back to the embassy didn't complain about his injuries. he wanted to stay on the job and eventually got out and when he got out and got to america in dr. mix said the only time i've been seeing a internal injuries this that our car wrecks and those guys are dead, and he lives now in pain. he's a very brave man but a really tireless in helping me get things right. islamic among the people you credit in the book is leon panetta and -- >> one of my best friends actually. >> if you want to leave the book you would think you were very well connected. >> you also interviewed for this book mohammed of hezboll

that implies that you're sort of making up everything in your mind well this isn't this isn't what khomeini actually meant what he meant was that sort of the utility is up to you and it's subjective you know. that's what he meant boy by that statement. every human being is put on planet earth their restrictions or their surroundings. so obviously it was meant in that context ok now when the mayor was putting forth his ideas he was breaking from a dominant school at a time i guess you could call it the neoclassical school or so how does the out how do you break from the school so what were the main tenets that said this is in fact a new school and how does it how does it achieve that break you must remember that they were they weren't neoclassical at the time i think they were thought of before from economics. classical near classical models just to see you that there is something inherent about the object itself rather than rather than the sort of the qualities being ascribed to it by the human in question of the collection of humans in question and now. you either get that as a principle s

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. >> did you see the picture in the paper over the weekend of president karzai and the ayatollah khomeini sitting down at a meeting pledging friendship support for one another? savitt i didn't see the picture but i was aware of the meeting. >> is it true that the ied and in effect in iran are still coming across the border into afghanistan and killing americans? >> i believe they are, sir. >> did you hear of a statement of the leader, the taliban field commander told the daily beast of his reaction to mr. obama's speech, quote, my soul and the soul of the thousands of taliban have been blown apart happy. i had more than 50 encounters with u.s. forces and their technology the the biggest difference in data war leznoff technology, but the more powerful islamic ideology and religion. are you aware of the statement by the taliban? >> i am, sir. is the president's announcement of this winstrol make your job -- if confirmed, i assure you will be -- harder, more difficult and challenging or easier? >> senator, that is a difficult question to answer. >> i'm sure it is. that's why i asked it. >> n

. >> did you see the picture in the paper over the weekend of president karzai and the ayatollah khomeini sitting down at a meeting pledging friendship support for one another? savitt i didn't see te picture but i was aware of the meeting. >> is it true that the ied and in effect in iran are still coming across the border into afghanistan and killing americans? >> i believe they are, sir. >> did you hear of a statement of the leader, the taliban field commander told the daily beast of his reaction to mr. obama's speech, quote, my soul and the soul of the thousands of taliban have been blown apart happy. i had more than 50 encounters with u.s. forces and their technology the the biggest difference in data war leznoff technology, but the more powerful islamic ideology and religion. are you aware of the statement by the taliban? >> i am, sir. is the president's announcement of this winstrol make your job -- if confirmed, i assure you will be -- harder, more difficult and challenging or easier? >> senator, thats a difficult question to answer. >> i'm sure it is. at's why i asked it. >> not be

when jimmy carter was president, and as i recall, i believe jimmy carter welcomed the ayatollah khomeini back as a man of peace. his peace was different than most of ours and certainly the part in congress that's in the majority. because khomeini's idea of peace was a world in which there is a worldwide caliphate and one great muslim leader dictates what peace means. he dictates shari'a law for everyone. there is no freedom of worship for christians, for buddhists, for -- certainly not for jewish people of orthodox faith, absolutely not, in fact they're obviously infidels from the things that were written and the things that continue to be written and spoken in the middle east. in egypt mubarak was a problem but mubarak had seen the handwriting on the wall and he was moving toward some local elections and could see he needed to move toward the idea of democracy. but didn't want to give up power. mubarak, for all his flaws, at least was not active, not an active belligerent against israel. gaddafi we knew had blood on his hands bewe also saw from -- but we also saw from ronald reagan drop