this particular energy that just overwhelm you with some colored power others call it the it factor khorasan whatever but it's when you have to work extra hard to stay cool to be your usual self who is that one person for you who actually gave you shivers you know it could be excitement or fear i don't know. or the first time i interviewed frank sinatra there's i when i was a kid i would go to movie theaters and watch frank sinatra and i admired him a great deal as a talent and he never did interviews and jackie gleason the famous jackie gleason was a friend of mine and got him to do my show and for maybe a minute i was intimidated our i was a little in awe and then it got right down to who what where when why the first time i was in the white house well first time i interviewed any world leader be it the. mr putin or or tony blair or or margaret thatcher you're hearing or someone who has attained a great deal of power that go that goes away really goes away very quickly and another thing you always know you know the interviewer is in control you is sophie are in control of this not me you c