the first one was khuda kay liye, which again, people at that time were like, "wow, what is this?"film, but touched on very sensitive topics. you know, whether it was religion, whether it was politics, whether it was about how we treat women in our society, what all of that was touched upon in khuda kay liye, then he came out with bol... we should say, shoaib mansoor... shoaib mansoor, yes, absolutely. he's one of pakistan's leading film directors... absolutely. ..and respected around the world now. yes, respected around the world. and then came bol, which touched on even more sensitive issues, and then now he's made verna. so making a film with a man like shoaib mansoor was not difficult because that's what he does. there is a disclaimer at the beginning of the movie which you made a point, i think, of tweeting out, it says: "everything in this film is imaginary. imaginary because the reality is too bitter to be told or shown. events shown in this film are like jokes compared to what has been happening in countries like ours. " was this a film made out of anger? yes, absolutely. a