dramatically in the last thirty years that's all i need to know but china can have recessions why ki-chan they have a recession that's agreed david do expect too much from the chinese economy i mean just look at the eurozone look at the dollars alone some economists have have learned to rely on the chinese economy i mean look at mongolia on its doorstep mongolia we were talking about six months ago as ready for this kind of multi-year maybe multi decade boom but that's all based on race is trying to demand believe me i think will come back i mean they're not going to i mean this is really all we know unicycle right now is this systemic is it structural well i think it's a bit of both i mean i think china has signaled that it wants to slow down from rapid growth that investment led growth you know has kind of problem side effects and you know kind of a natural end and they've signaled i mean partly under pressure from the west but they've signaled for their own purposes that they want to slowly come to migrate the economy over to more domestic demand which will be in. only about a timefram