there are more kibbes out there.we did our investigation, we were flooded with hundreds of possible leads in this case. some of these people are actually predators that are out there driving the roads among us, who live right among us. kibbe made a comment that there was never a girl that was going to get away with him once he decided to take her, so if anything else, be weary. hopefully, you're never in that situation, but i instructed my wife and my daughter, fight like hell, because once he has you in that car, they were done. >>> coming up -- the mystery of where lou ellen burleigh was killed is finally solved. >> it was a miracle. i think i'd go for the needle in the haystack, you know, over this. all the way up your hands. any exposed skin. and get the backs of your hands too. put some just around your neck. [ bell rings ] you're good to go. okay great thanks, here. can you hold him? [ bell rings ] [ female announcer ] by their second kid, every mom is an expert and more likely to choose luvs than first time mo

kibbe. >> caller: good morning, c-span. thank you for being here, mr. kibbe. because of the last caller who -- [inaudible] like around to see where the democrats far long time and what happened there arab i'm not talking about congress or the president. i'm talking about the cityies. they are majority of now controlled dominated by liberal democrat parties. look what happened there suburbs and so what all of the demonization of the republicans the people that ought to look around and say where do i want to be? do i want to with the republicans which is what most people do when they have to send their kids to public school. or go nay want to be in the cities that democrats have joined? >> host: i think we have a point. >> guest: you look at what is happening in detroit and the flight from california and the population growth in states like texas. it's pretty clear to me that people vote with their feet and seek out economic opportunities they seek out freedom. i live in a district of columbia

. >> let's go to a tea party expert, matt kibbe of freedom works.et's listen to him back. >> grassroots activists have an ability to self-organize, to fund candidates they're more interested in. going right around the republican national committee and the senatorial committee. that's the new reality. everything's more democratized. republicans should come to terms with that. they want to control things from the top down and if they do that, there will absolutely be a split. but my prediction would be that we take over the republican party and they go the way of the wakes. >> what do you make of that? the only thing i can remember is around vietnam wartime watching the democratic convention as a grad student and thinking, i think the anti-war people want to take over the party in the instance of stopping the war. it had gone on too long in '68. they weren't thinking about changing the party necessarily. these people are interested in a total, what do they call it some alternative they're trying to create using the shape of the republican party. >> th

kibbe to clarify what he meant by real americans? guest: i love this question. people suggest that when you use a phrase like that you are trying to define people. mice are real americans, i am talking about everyone who lives outside the washington beltway. i think the world is divided between people who are inside the beltway and outside of it. us, real americans, live outside the beltway. trying tos always divide us and slices and dices based on our age, on the color of our skin, on our income. slice us and dice us based on our age, on the color of our skin, on our income. curtis. i think we should do more focusing on the finance. i think we are running on old data. i think that is the issue right now. all the people saying about taxing -- you have the money. taxing is the name of the game. if you are going to make money, you have to give back. we need to learn how to save our money. we need to try to stop spending our money in one year. it does not make sense. even though we do get taxed on it. if we stop doing all this stuff -- like random money. we would b

and matt kibbe talks about spending. know that's a tea party priority, but he makes it sound so nice a. there are other aspects to the tea party as you know. the tea party is fueled by a lot of antagonism, a lot of rage, a lot of inflexibility on a whole lot of issues. and people sense that. people see that. people know how they talk and feel about obama. and that's why they're at 21% in the polls. >> this is really a fight on the right and center right. do you think we should dump as a country mitch mcconnell, thad cochran, pat roberts as senators? >> i do think we should upgrade from a lot of these republicans who haven't done what it takes to get this done. >> in other words, that's nice language for let's dump these guys. you say upgrade, i don't know what that means. >> we're in the process of repopulating the republican party with people who stand for something. >> upgrading and repopulating. how's that different than dumping? >> same thing happened when ronald reagan stepped onto the national scene in 1976. the es

. >> the analogy is right but then you have to consider the context which makes matt kibbe's remarksnbased. you have a system in the country giving more power and authority to solitary individual donors. it's taken away the power from the committees and put it in the individual's hand. essentially one person can say i want to bankroll this one candidate. the second thing is we're living in this time with an incredible libertarian bent. it's a backlash from the bush years and it's being profoundly seen in the republican tent. they were really upset with what happened in iraq and they thought that the party lost its roots as sort of a quasi isolation. there's a backlash to that. finally, let me add one thing. the internet and social media facilitated a lot of this. candidates can connect with so many more people and voters. that's put fuel to the fire when you look at rand paul who have -- >> nobody wants to -- none of the tleef us can read minds or hearts. when we say somebody is a racist, when you try to suppress the black vote, that's palpable. you may not like them because they're

. >> host: finally matt kibbe your second book is coming at april 15 i think you said 2014. what is the title and what's it about? >> guest: the title is don't hurt people and don't take their stuff. i'm trying to get at those basic values that i think connect a new generation of americans who want to see less centralization in washington d.c. and less outsourcing to third powerful parties and just get back to those basic american principles. >> host: matt kibbe freedom works president and ceo of freedom works.org is the web site. thank you for your time. that's former secretary of state hillary clinton discusses recent international affairs including china and the syrian civil war. she spoke with chatham director robin niblett and was awarded the 2013 chatham house price for her contribution to international diplomacy and her work on gender equality. from london, this is about an hour. [applause] [applause] >> ladies and gentlemen welcome to chatham house. thank you very much for joining us today. before anything else as i said secretary clinton please make sure you have yo

. >> gloria borger joining us and matt kibbe of freedom works.ou are opposed to obama care in all its forms. do you, is the website a surprise that it's not working? >> i'm actually shocked that it's so dysfunctional. it's like a caricature we would have designed to prove how bad it would be. and it's not just a small case of a failure but a fundamental case of failure. there is an interesting report from the sunlight foundation that looks a it the contractors. >> many contractors. >> many contractors. >> who brought us ed snowden. >> all this fabulous stuff and there is a lot of political contributions. millions of dollars of lobbying. and i would argue what has happened with this website is what we're afraid to happen when the government gets involved in the health care -- >> but that's an extrapolation. to jump from, you know, a problem with the website to the policy. >> it's not a problem with the website. it's a functional corruption. >> i think there is right now a problem with the website. that's a real thing. whether or not there is lobby

matt kibbe, president and ceo of freedom works. washington journal is live every morning. >> the headline, republican senator mitch mcconnell promises no more shutdowns over obamacare. based on an interview with alexander bolton from the newspaper who is turning us on capitol hill, thanks so much for being with us. guest: thanks for having me. host: how did this interview come about? guest: leader mcconnell was trying to sell his version of the deal that was inked on wednesday with senate majority leader harry reid. i think he is under some pressure to justify this deal because conservatives are slamming him for it. in particular, the senate conservatives fund, which in september funded $340,000 worth of television ads that were critical of mcconnell's role in the fight to defund obama care. conservatives said mcconnell is not fighting hard enough. many conservatives were not satisfied with this bill. 18 republicans voted against it on wednesday. mcconnell is out there selling it and explaining why it is a good idea. so i think tha

matt kibbe tweeted this week, quote, the government shutdown and the debt ceiling crisis were brilliantepublican strategy. and last week, the other person michele bachmann answered the question whether the shutdown was worth it by saying quote, absolutely. i think it's worth it. it's been worth it because what we did was we fought the right fight. the shutdown has caused the republican favorability to drop to an all-time low. eight of ten americans di disapprove of the shutdown and blame the republicans for it. joan walsh and ron reagan. both of you, take your turns. first of all, explain the phenomenon of ann coulter. my theory is she's able to say anything that comes to mind and she's brilliant at the provocation she starts because nobody can fire her. which is great for her. but this notion that somehow this has been a swell, exciting period of their lives. that this has worked out for them. it's amazing how they can ape reality. go ahead, your thoughts, joan. >> because, you know, she's playing to the most paranoid extremist fringe of the party. and she's telling them what they want

. >> gloria borger joining us and matt kibbe of freedom works.posed to obama care in all its forms. do you, is the website a surprise that it's not working? >> i'm actually shocked that it's so dysfunctional. it's like a caricature we would have designed to prove how bad it would be. andth not just a small case of a failure but a fundamental case of failure. there is an interesting report from the sunlight foundation that looks a it the contractors. >> many contractors. >> many contractors. >> who brought us ed snowden. >> all this fabulous stuff and there is a lot of political continue buyings. millions of dollars of lobbying. and i would argue what has happened with this website is what we're afraid to happen when the government gets involved in the health care -- >> but that's an extrapolation. to jump from, you know, a problem with the website to the policy. >> it's not a problem with the website. it's a functional corruption. >> i think there is right now a problem with the website. that's a real thing. whether or not there is lobbying and w

. >> the analogy is right, but then consider the context which makes matt kibbe's remarks unbased.ou have a system in this country which giving more power and authority to solitary individual donors. it's taken away the party from the party committees and put it in the individuals' hands. so one person can say i want to bank roll this one candidate and suddenly you don't have to party structure. and the second thing is we're living in this time where there's an incredible libertarian bent. i think it's a backlash from the bush years and it's profoundly seen in the republican tent. they were upset with t.a.r.p. and the spending and medicare part d. but they were upset with what happened in iraq. they thought the party lost its roots. and there's a backlash to that. let me add one thing which is that the internet and social media has really facilitated a lot of this. candidates can now connect with so many more voters than they used to in the past. that has put fuel to the fire when you look at ron paul and rand paul. >> look at this. none of the three of us can read minds or hearts.

kibbe to clarify what he meant by real americans? guest: i love this question.eople suggest that when you use a phrase like that you are trying to define people. when i say real americans, i am talking about everyone who lives outside the washington beltway. i think the world is divided between people who are inside the beltway and outside of it. the rest of us, real americans, live outside the beltway. the left is always trying to divide us and slice us and dice us based on our age, on the color of our skin, on our income. on our age, on the color of our skin, on our income. host: curtis. caller: i think we should do more focusing on the finance. i think we are running on old data. i think we have more of that kind of issue right now. all the people saying about taxing -- you have the money. taxing is the name of the game. if you are going to make money, you have to give back. we need to learn how to save our money. we need to try to stop spending our money in one year. it does not make sense. even though we do get taxed on it. if we stop doing all this stuff l